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by lrvick13 hours ago |
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upvoteby tristanj12 hours ago|
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Completely wrong. Apple goes to extraordinary lengths, to the point of harming the usability of their products, to protect user privacy and avoid collecting user data.

Apple could easily make tens of billions dollars extra if they spied more on their users.

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upvoteby solyin12 hours ago|
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Not completely, not anymore. Apple's gotten a taste of advertising dollars via the App store. Search for product A and product B will pay money to come first. Apple TV advertises for the shows they've made in the Apple TV app instead of going to your library. Same for Books.app.

The biggest indightment of Apple in my mind is the copy and pasting of links into iMessage. iMessages "helpfully" renders a preview so a dumb consumer doesn't have to see an ugly long text of a url. But in doing so, it also happens to hides the utm code that is used for tracking by marketers.

They've got their eye on that tens of billion dollars extra.

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upvoteby brookst11 hours ago|
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While I dislike Apple’s move to ads, I’m at a loss how accepting money to degrade search results is a privacy issue rather than just a UX quality issue. What information is Apple sharing with advertisers?
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upvoteby Geezus_4210 hours ago|
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Where do they get the data to target the ads?
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upvoteby Barbing7 hours ago|
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Please tell me it’s the search query.
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upvoteby deaux6 hours ago|
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It is.
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upvoteby afavour12 hours ago|
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Does Apple sell data on what I’m watching to third parties?

Linux is not a viable option for TV for the vast majority of users. There are no sit back, remote driven apps for the services they use.

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upvoteby Geezus_4210 hours ago|
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KDE Plasma Bigscreen?
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upvoteby TedDoesntTalk12 hours ago|
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JellyFin or Plex. Personally i just use a Linux Mint desktop connected to the TV instead. Web browser for streaming and VLC for downloaded videos.

But JellyFin and Plex exist for people who don’t want that.

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upvoteby drnick111 hours ago|
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What the parent is saying is that the desktop versions of those programs are not remote friendly and the interface is not ideally scaled for 10-foot use. What you want are the Android TV versions, running on Waydroid or an x86 build of Android TV. See my other reply.
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upvoteby afavour10 hours ago|
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Jellyfin and Plex cannot stream from major streaming providers. Yes, I know the answer is pirating content but that’s a complete paradigm shift compared to what most people are used to. It’s an absolutely enormous extra requirement when you’re suggesting someone switch their TV to Linux.
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upvoteby cmoski7 hours ago|
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Kind of simpler in a way wouldn't it be? One provider vs 8 different streaming providers.
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upvoteby afavour6 hours ago|
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No one seems to have a problem dealing with multiple streaming providers. They’re essentially just different submenus on the TV app.

Compare that to setting up a home server with a ton of storage, setting up torrenting/newsgroups, software to check for new releases and automatically download them, probably a VPN too… it’s a whole different world.

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upvoteby azinman212 hours ago|
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Apple is not a “surveillance capitalism company that trains on your data to manipulate you”. The exact opposite, actually.

Source: I work at Apple. The privacy story isn’t just marketing, it’s very real and part of every discussion.

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upvoteby sneak12 hours ago|
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You know why. Nobody wants to sysadmin their “friendly Linux distro” just to watch shows. Kodi is amateur hour compared to tvOS. Nowhere do people care more that it “just works” than the thing their TV remote talks to.
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upvoteby epihelix9 hours ago|
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Nobody in the general public wants to do that, but I'd think some in the HN audience might feel differently (I mean, setting this up is part of the fun).

Personally, I use an RPi4 with libreelec, and it works great - including responding to my remote via HDMI-CEC. (There's also no need for any sysadmin with libreelec, which is designed to work out of the box.)

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upvoteby qweqwe1411 hours ago|
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I literally bought a mini PC, installed Arch with KDE via archinstall, installed chromium, and haven't done any "sysadmin" since.

Yes, it "just works". Why wouldn't it?

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upvoteby sneak10 hours ago|
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You don’t have HDR and can’t pair and then send audio to bluetooth speakers via only the remote in 100 seconds. These basic things are table stakes. It does not “just work”.
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upvoteby olyjohn10 hours ago|
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Oh no! It might take more than a minute to connect to my brain rot!
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upvoteby anonym299 hours ago|
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The standard that the comment you're responding to is that the whole solution must be effortless even for someone with an IQ of 75. Don't try to stoop to their level, no amount of freedom or control justifies any level of effort to people like that. They'd rather have a system that forces them to view and verbally respond to ads every 10 minutes than one that requires them to learn anything more complex than what a toddler can figure out.
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upvoteby bitwize3 hours ago|
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Even smart people have limited time and limited capacity for effort. Failure to Just Work is sand in their gears. Hand-rolled Linux TVs are a nonstarter.
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upvoteby sneak7 hours ago|
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The fact that Linux is a huge inconvenient waste of time to use for normal tasks has nothing to do with brainrot. You’re moving the goalposts.

You must realize there are things like 3blue1brown, Veritasium, and Numberphile on YouTube, right?

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