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Agree … but the part that needs to be remembered

make sure it’s a model where the latest firmware is rootable and never connect it to your WiFi until you have root

Everything you need to do to get root can be done with an Ethernet connected directly to the TV and your laptop. There may be modifications needed to the root toolkits but with good prompting, agentic Llm can figure it out.

If you bought one without root… you may have a chance never connecting it.

If it’s one on your WiFi that doesn’t have a root exploit the only safe thing to do is change your WiFi password.

If you don’t own your TV assume it’s pwnd.

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If I understand well the rooting process basically asks me to tell a website my ip and exploitable tv version... Is that not basically inviting them to make me part of a botnet?
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It ships with the manufacturer botnet.
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I mean LG spies on me but I suppose it doesn't use my connection to ddos people, crawl for AI, or infect other devices on my network.

My question is basically how I can have reasonable certainty that the guys running the root site are not going to abuse it. Or is there also a way to do it offline?

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If you really have root access, you can check for yourself.
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I am unfamiliar with LG TV software but I would imagine that you can reinstall it after rooting and use custom software that you trust.
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Check what exactly? Run wireshark 24/7 and inspect every network packet for the malicious bits?
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Of course this is a thing. My LG CX is way out of warranty and on older FW. Will give this a go later! Thank you.
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Does this guide eliminate google play services? If not, then you still don't really control it. For reference, on my Pixel 6 Pro, GrapheneOS gets 2x the advertised battery life until you add Google Play Services back into a sandbox. At that point, it gets advertised battery life.

I assume the TVs Google backdoors are even worse (video scraping, etc, etc) since they are not power constrained.

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LG Web OS is not android based, so that should be no concern
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Good for them!
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If you'd never heard of WebOS (which sounds a bit like "eggs" in spanish), the story of how it was developed by Palm, then killed by HP and re-released as a TV OS after being acquired by LG is fascinating. It could do real multitasking on a tablet in 2010, years before either iPads or Android tablets could.
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WebOS and Android are broadly the same thing: custom user-mode applications and layers on top of a Linux kernel.
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Gosh I miss my Zire 72.
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Just install microG or Mind the Gapps
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I had no idea google play services uses that must power. Another good reason to get rid of it.
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Maybe not buy the effectively most notoriously brand and push their sales
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Thanks for that first link, was finally able to root my B4, took less than 10 minutes.
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I wonder if it’s possible to hack my LG remote to use local voice models like Parakeet hosted within the LAN…? To trigger home assistant light settings, adjust blinds, switch on and off AV devices etc
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Doesn’t rooting it void the warranty anyway though!?
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Is it possible to root a Samsung?
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Yes, but the ecosystem is far less mature. I managed to dump the contents of my S90F using this repository: https://github.com/chris-ritsen/samsung-tv-root/releases

The root is transient, and Samsung TVs also have Knox security which I presume you really don’t want to trip. Some parts of the file system are protected by SMACK which even root can’t access.

I’m working on reverse engineering the applications that run in that SMACK context to see if there’s any way to gain access.

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buying expensive equipment to deliberately take advantage of a now-exploit is such a bad idea, and it's bit me more than once in the past few decades.

and ethically, what's the point in giving hostile corporate groups any money ? I get that you're breaking out of their mega subsidized and profit-locked walled garden, but 'sold units' is still a metric they'll use to positively enforce their strategies going forward, and as with all goods the vulnerabilities will get more and more exotic until totally pushed out of public availability much like the newest console gens.

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The one unit you buy is an insignificant drop in the bucket for them, and getting their actually good underlying hardware and display firmware is much more valuable for you in comparison.
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> sold units' is still a metric they'll use to positively enforce their strategies

Exactly, if we want change the sales numbers have to go down. That means don't by LG, Samsung and who have you, it also means telling friends and family to go buy something else... but what?

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The manufacturer will price in the value of ads and the such. So if you never connect it to WiFi, you get a good deal on the hardware. The same is true if you buy a tv and connect it to a traditional antenna (all tv’s in America are required by law to support this). You can always take it back if the firmware is not the right version to root.
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Vote with your wallet though. If the price is not an issue (like the OP seems to be saying "I don’t mind paying a premium"), then there's no point in encouraging these kind of practices, even if they're pretty common for these kind of device.

Unfortunately though I think you are right and the best thing to do is just get one that has the specs you want never connect it to the internet and just get a companion device for the connected stuff like a Shield Pro (aging device but I did not catch up to what was the cool new things for those)

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This is kind of an annoying platitude until you provide some vote that's worth casting. Who do you think we can buy from for a high quality, modern, privacy-oriented TV if you're so confident that it's just a matter of voting with your wallet rather than buying the device that lets you do what you want to with a bit of finagling?
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It could be a loss leader where they make all their money with ads and spyware. I don't know if that's the case, but if it is, they'd lose money from the purchase and never make it back.
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A lot of people didn't know and already own this stuff. We can always buy second hand.
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Yeah, step 1, buy a TV with this firmware version... As if they told you in the store before you purchase it.
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Mostly had success by buying it second hand and checking the firmware version
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Thanks for this rooting guide
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How does the "chromecast" work as you described? Is it just DLNA/DIAL?
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I just created a new project actually for this and Im about to add this to homebrew for easy install but you can already build this locally and add it to your tv with the scripts in the project https://codeberg.org/nobunaga/LoLCast
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This is so cool! My next TV is definitely going to be a rootable one.
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