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>in fact, the linked article even has a whole section to support your doubt about the claim

I didn't say I doubted the claim, in fact I went to the trouble to say I believed it. So you should try again to glean what I could have meant.

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> You absolutely should trust wikipedia unless you can provide some evidence to the contrary

ur turn to glean

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i asked you first and you didn't answer what I asked, so why should I do what you ask? I am prepared to refute your point, but we need to stick to the agenda as set down.
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