Their search engine is now integrated with Ai. So either google would need to block the search engine or the school if they don't want Ai. Take your pick.
replyThat's the same argument Microsoft made with Internet Explorer.
replyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Cor....
A lot of these schools use tablets though. The kids probably use their phones so more likely to be google. Higher grades though use laptops I think so more likely Microsoft then. So far internet explorer is not integrated with Ai but microsoft copilot though is 100% ai and can be used for search.
replyI'm not talking about Copilot, I'm talking about IE6 back in the 90s, where Microsoft took the "oh woe is us it'll be so hard to undo the deep unnecessary integration we built for this very purpose" tactic.
replyThat happened before some of the readers of this thread were born. A summary for those people, from the fog of distant memories: MS had an Internet Explorer that was not integrated in Windows, it was like any other browser. Then they decided to build it inside Windows. I remember that the Windows desktop got web views like widgets (web view as a name probably did not exist yet) and they called it Active Desktop. I think that it as COM/OLE objects too and the web view was probably one of them. File Explorer itself got an Internet Explorer like skin, probably with single click to navigate directories and open files, as if they were links. Then they claimed that it was impossible to disentangle IE from Windows. That eventually paved the way to the ruling against MS.
replyWhen I hear a giant company say that modifying some of its software is impossible I always think about that IE and laugh.
I agree with that view point.. yup
replyBilly Gates swore on a bible that Internet Explorer could not be removed and lied his ass off.
replyProfited very handsomely from his lies.
And what was the end result there?
replyMicrosoft was successfully forced to unbundle IE?
replyNot really? In the US it kept being bundled by default, they just made it possible to disable the front end; the MSHTML rendering engine was unremovable.
replyIt doesn't even exist any more, and they were required to open up APIs to third-party browser makers. We'd be worse off without the settlement.
replyThey just renamed it to Edge when they rebooted the UI. It's still a bundled browser, indeed the bundling is more aggressive than ever.
replyEdge is Chromium. Their competitor's engine.
replyTheir search engine will omit "AI" summaries if you add &udm=14 to the query URL.
replyI added a custom search engine entry to firefox that does this, made it the default, and haven't seen an AI summary from Google since I did that.
That filter does much more, it removes all the "first party" results, AI or otherwise. You are better off with adding "-ai" to the query.
replyObviously they have at least a back-end search service that isn't tangled up with an LLM. When Gemini says "Searching the web..." it isn't chatbots all the way down. Google just needs to make a human UI for the same search Gemini uses.
replyIt depends if you ask it a question or simply specify an object I think.
replyIt’s not integrated, they are lying
replyYeah, I read this and immediately thought “tying arrangement.” But they’re not CHARGING separately for search and AI, so I doubt a tying theory would hold up in court.
replyThey do charge for Gemini, if you want pro models.
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