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The creativity space moves. Now, it has moved to how you use your tokens.
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For some..
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And some people still make stone tools as a creative pursuit. Everything is valid as creativity.
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I guess, but this isn't just some claude-kiddie, he's the creator of Three.js. it's like slamming Linus for using AI on the Linux kernel. He knows what he's doing.
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I know who he is and I don't care what he does with ai.

To me these little challenges are about improving programming skills, showing creativity, and mostly just for fun. So using LLMs on 'codevember' feels weird. That doesn't mean I'm blaming him for it, I'm just having a hard time accepting it.

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If coding is for you about writing beautiful code, then yes.

Many of us are in the game because of the love for building things.

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So you get the same joy from building things even when you outsource the "building" to some other person?
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A big chunk of the software development industry is not typing code but figuring out what code to write in the first place.

If you want to draw out the construction analogy, ask a mason or carpenter if they'd rather be an architect. (a lot would probably not want to, but I know a few people in the trades that can do a lot more than just welding two pieces of steel together, it's just that their job is the welding part.

Actually this will be one of the challenges; LLM assisted coding has empowered people to be more decision makers, lead developers, architects, etc than code monkeys. But it's a pyramid, there's only so many lead developers you feasibly need on a project.)

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Not OP but if it comes to Claude or OpenAI use, that does make me roll my eyes.

That said, I use local AI on GPUs I own, so they are -my- tools on -my- property to help me research debug and help me execute my ideas faster than I could before, so more things get done than were done previously.

I keep my AI rack under my 3D printer because they are the same type of tool to me.

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> If coding is for you about writing beautiful code

...when did I ever said that?

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Creativity is about coming up with your vision with the tools at hand in my eyes. I would still argue in situations like this you need a sense of style to understand what works and what doesn't.
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I thought so too, but AI is kinda destroying everything fun. Game jams, Advent of code, codevember apparently. To me personally it's super sad to see.
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If you care about leaderboards perhaps. If you do it because it's fun then there is no reason to use AI if you don't find that fulfilling.
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I agree given that it’s about competition and not just having fun.
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Ugh, fun.
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i don't know, i vibe code a lot but could never come up with that. To me, it is pretty much human creativity.
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While true, I think it's also true that ideas are cheap - how many people here know someone that had a great idea (like "uber for pets") and just need a software developer to build it?

That said, idea people can now make their ideas a reality quicker / cheaper without needing an expert, if only to show it. Which in turn can make them more creative and original. In theory.

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