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by hendrikmans58 minutes ago |
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upvoteby vmg1244 minutes ago|
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Electron is bad, just because Rust is not a good language for building UIs doesn't make electron not bad. People that pick electron (and Rust / gpui) just completely ignore the entire host of other options that are available (I suspect because they want to avoid thinking).
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upvoteby hendrikmans38 minutes ago|
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Give me some examples, including their cross-platform story (including mobile).
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upvoteby the__alchemist30 minutes ago|
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Could you please link to some GUI applications you've built in rust, and/or describe why you added those abstractions and built a browser? This doesn't match my experience.
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upvoteby hendrikmans26 minutes ago|
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I don't understand this question. GPUI's unstable to non-existing a11y, IME, RTL etc. support is well documented.
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upvoteby the__alchemist5 minutes ago|
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What you posted doesn't match my experience, so I curious how you arrived at the conclusion that building a GUI application is like building a web browser, and why the abstraction layers you described are necessary as a baseline. I am asking you to post links to the rust GUI applications you've built where you ran into this.
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upvoteby post-it55 minutes ago|
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> Then you find out that iterating on a fully Rust-based app is sloooow

Maybe not anymore. I don't work on any Chrome-sized Rust codebases so I don't know, but iterating on anything is so much faster that it might work out fine.

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upvoteby sgarland34 minutes ago|
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Eh, it’s still pretty annoying. I have a small voice chat app, and it easily takes a couple of minutes to build releases for all three platforms (MacOS, Linux, Windows) on a MBP.
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upvoteby delta_p_delta_x51 minutes ago|
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> is a bit of a junior- to mid-level engineer tell in my eyes

There is absolutely no reason for Discord—a chat application—to run everything a browser does. Why do I need to play videos in the chat application? Why do individual avatars and even tags have to run custom shaders? It's called scope creep.

> a11y, IME, RTL

All of this can be done at the platform level. Win32 did this three decades ago. Comes with entire language packs.

> so you add a scripting layer, maybe integrate a little Lua VM or something that lets you execute JavaScript

See above: scope creep; features for features' sake.

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upvoteby hendrikmans39 minutes ago|
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> Why do I need to play videos in the chat application?

You know exactly that the moment that Discord launches a new version that no longer plays videos, people will whine about it.

> All of this can be done at the platform level. Win32 did this three decades ago.

Yeah, but they're porting to Rust and GPUI and not that.

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