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by ivanjermakov2 hours ago |
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upvoteby Grombobulous2 hours ago|
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Unless you’re Ferrari or Porsche, you don’t want to be in the situation where your vehicle has future collectors’ value. That usually just means it didn’t sell very well (rarity).

Let’s keep in mind that Tesla invested in this truck to be the next F-150, which is the best-selling vehicle in the USA for the past multiple decades.

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upvoteby iamnothere2 hours ago|
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You’re talking about different things. A failure from a manufacturer perspective can be a major success from a collector perspective (see also the DeLorean).

Even the hated Edsel is worth quite a bit today.

Of course it might be harder to keep a Cybertruck running for 50 years due to all the computerized components. Restorers will probably be relegated to rebuilding Cybertruck bodies with new components.

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upvoteby AshleyGrant1 hours ago|
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> Of course it might be harder to keep a Cybertruck running for 50 years due to all the computerized components. Restorers will probably be relegated to rebuilding Cybertruck bodies with new components.

Really no different than any classic car, really. GM isn't selling OEM parts for a '57 Chevy, for example. If you need replacement parts on those, nowadays, you're likely going to specialty manufacturers given there really aren't any "parts cars" around anymore.

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upvoteby iamnothere1 hours ago|
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True, I just imagine that it will be harder for non-OEMs to make replacement electronics given how locked down Teslas are.
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upvoteby AshleyGrant1 hours ago|
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We'll have to wait and see. I honestly kind of doubt that will be true. There's all kinds of Tesla hacking that's been going on for years. It's possible to get a Tesla motor running without any external Tesla electronics through aftermarket solutions that carry support from the vendors.
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upvoteby iamnothere4 minutes ago|
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upvoteby Grombobulous1 hours ago|
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I am talking about how value to collectors is irrelevant for most automakers.

Tesla’s corporate leadership would be much happier if the Cybertruck was selling 100,000 units a year and was not at all a collector’s item.

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upvoteby iamnothere17 minutes ago|
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That’s not relevant to what the person you were responding to was talking about. They were talking about collectors.
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upvoteby KerrAvon1 hours ago|
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In its time, the Edsel was more meh than hated. Mainly people didn't buy them because they were essentially pricier Fords and it was a recession year, and Ford threw in the towel for Ford-internal political reasons. The looks were not as much of an issue as people think today. It certainly didn't have the same political associations.

Good book on the subject: https://www.sup.org/books/history/disaster-dearborn

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upvoteby iamnothere10 minutes ago|
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Thanks for the clarification. My understanding was that the quality issues and exaggerated features drew a lot of mockery at the time. That’s not always enough to prevent something from succeeding (other polarizing vehicles like the Nissan Cube did OK) so the recession/internal politics angle makes sense.
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upvoteby baggachipz2 hours ago|
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> Of course it might be harder to keep a Cybertruck running for 50 years due to all the computerized components

And all the well-documented reliability and quality issues.

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upvoteby iamnothere2 hours ago|
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That’s not such a big issue for restorers, there were also extreme quality problems with the Edsel.
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