It’s not clear whether this still happens in the “Lockdown” mode that Apple specifically added for people who expect to be in this scenario.
replyIt's a no win situation. All of this surveillance is happening on the internet right now. All the companies are doing this surveillance Apple happens to be doing it on device. This is the data Apple is trying to prevent from leaving the device. Apple is constantly fighting court battles to protect the data. Apple is always being accused of hampering developers freedom's while trying to safeguard access to this data.
All that said turning off Apple Intelligence should eliminate the collection.
reply>All that said turning off Apple Intelligence should eliminate the collection.
replyAmen.
I hate to break it to you, but the Government doesn’t need your device’s data to get all that information about you if it has the necessary warrants. If you think you can win a battle against any government over the collection of evidence needed to prosecute you, as long as they do it lawfully, you are sorely mistaken.
replyThis makes zero sense, and is delivered in a silly tone. The government can even get information about you when it doesn't have warrants (good luck fighting it after the fact), or got warrants from a secret court. The government cannot get information about you which has not been collected, because that is impossible.
replyThe point is that that information is already out there. It might not be on your laptop, but it exists.
reply"I hate to break it to you", but it's very rational to take imperfect measures against violation.
replyNo it isn’t. It’s a waste of time and energy.
replyIf my threat model realistically included all of those things, then I would be very careful about keeping any sort of address book or contact log/history at all. At that point the only defense really is just to try to memorize phone numbers. And only talk when walking together, mob-style.
replyHa, fair. To me its about the concentration of "high quality' or juicy data that makes a person vulnerable. When the stakes get higher, threat, reward, and the temptation for bad action increase.
replyBtw on android it's easy to make contacts self maintained. And to use an open source messenger so texts dont go through Google's servers. Not same level you're describing, but a huge defense against these "social graph intrusions."
> And only talk when walking together, mob-style.
replyBoth of you will be carrying microphones, walking past people who are carrying microphones, and being video recorded from every building and from the networked doorstops of family homes.
... I feel like if an authoritarian government could extract the family classifier info from local, they could just extract the damn messages.
replyAnd if you think that handful of megabytes is too much, they could extract a million other signals that tell them this, such as who you have pinned in the relevant apps.