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by elgertam2 hours ago |
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upvoteby kebman58 minutes ago|
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I wonder how they get around GDPR. Normally I'd expect the EU to dish out a pretty hefty fine for this sort of thing, but something tells me Apple lawyers and penpushers has been busy making sure this passes, even though it's technically illegal.
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upvoteby snowwrestler50 minutes ago|
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If it is stored entirely on the machine you own, then you are processing and storing the data.
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upvoteby semiquaver10 minutes ago|
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It all lives on your device in order to make it work better. Apple literally doesn’t have custody of the data so it’s not relevant to the GDPR. It’s your data.
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upvoteby sneak6 minutes ago|
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Were that were so!

iCloud Backup, on by default, is not end to end encrypted and uploads almost the entire contents of your device to Apple’s servers every night in a format they can read (effectively unencrypted). This includes your entire message history over SMS and iMessage and all attachments thereto.

It is safe to assume that the data collected and assembled by these daemons is part of the iCloud Backup, which you never have to explicitly enable; it happens when you log in to iCloud on the device, usually within minutes of first powering it on for most people.

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upvoteby semiquaver4 minutes ago|
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  > It is safe to assume
No need to assume anything. This data is not included in iCloud backup. That detail is included in the article.

You are misinformed (or speculating) and spreading FUD.

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upvoteby shuckles4 minutes ago|
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Photos aren’t in iCloud Backup. Have you considered doing the bare minimum to understand the features you complain about?
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upvoteby tpmoney52 minutes ago|
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For the GDPR to have impact here, wouldn't they have to be collecting the information in the first place? If they're doing all the work on your own computer, that wouldn't trigger any GDPR issues.
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upvoteby 4thguy24 minutes ago|
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Data collection is still data collection, it doesn't matter whether I am the one processing that data or a third party :)
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upvoteby semiquaver8 minutes ago|
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It does matter. Your interpretation of “data collection” leads to absurd results.
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upvoteby MattDamonSpace57 minutes ago|
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Might not be used in the EU
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upvoteby ProllyInfamous1 hours ago|
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Great "just a user" feedback!

>it should be opt-in

And definitely not "cannot even turn this shit off" mode.

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I just recently installed Microsoft Office 2011 on my 27" iMac (2009 i5), and it absolutely shocked me that the default "Send User Data to Microsoft" option was `OPT-OUT`, requiring the user to manually click a radio-button to `OPT-IN` to usage data collection.

This was in recent living memory. From Microsoft.

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