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Language matters.

"XXX is being investigated" implies there's some kind of possible wrongdoing here.

There might be some of that, but this is not likely the focus of the investigation.

They're investigating a potential influence operation involving the CEO, which may overlap with investigating some kind of culpability on his part.

It's an unfair editorial headline.

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Here is the literal source:

"" initiating an independent investigation in light of recent reporting that founder and CEO Jensen Huang has been the target of a foreign intelligence effort.""

Jensen is not specifically under investigation, if anything the language is sympathetic to him being the target of a foreign Op.

The US government is investigating Alice Huang (not Jensen) for obvious reasons.

Obviously the 'bar' is different for the CEO than for someone acting with criminal intent, but it's not far to say that Jensen is under investigation.

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> "XXX is being investigated" implies there's some kind of possible wrongdoing here.

There clearly is some "possible wrongdoing here", hence the investigation which has been launched if for no other purpose than to rule that out.

> They're investigating a potential influence operation involving the CEO

They're not investigating what we already know. The presence of a spy leaves no doubt that Huang was the target of an influence operation, the primary concern now are the details of Huang's conduct with respect to being targeted.

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" has been launched if for no other purpose than to rule that out.

This is false and basically slander.

The statement from Nvidia indicates no such thing.

They are investigating the fact that Jensen was the target of a Foreign Intelligence Operation - literally those are the words.

The target of the government's investigation is her (Alice Huang) not him.

They are not 'investigating Jensen', it's an unfair misrepresentation.

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‘Nvidia said on Sunday that it was opening an investigation into Jensen Huang, its chief executive and co-founder, after he acknowledged to the company’s board that he had been intimate with a business executive who U.S. intelligence determined was a Chinese spy.’

New York Times (paywalled) is happy to call it an investigation into the CEOs conduct. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/08/technology/nvidia-investi...

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> "XXX is being investigated" implies there's some kind of possible wrongdoing here

A Board independently investigating its CEO with outside counsel absolutely communicates they think he may have fucked up. You don't do that in the normal course of affairs.

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No - this is not true.

They are not 'investigating the CEO' - they are investigating the situation.

In the press release they are investigating the fat that Jensen 'was the target of an operation'.

I think the misrepresentative nature of your comment proves my point.

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> this is not true

What experience or reporting are you basing this on?

> They are not 'investigating the CEO' - they are investigating the situation

This is how all independent investigations by a Board are phrased. Because half the time, you don't fire the CEO. Would you say walking into a meeting where you have a 50% chance of being fired is a nothing burger?

> the misrepresentative nature of your comment proves my point

I think I'm pretty clearly representing what a lot of folks on this thread are misunderstanding, willfully or ignorantly, about the nature of this sort of a Board action.

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The board of directors have no jurisdiction to investigate an "influence operation on their CEO", and even if they did, they have no power to do anything about it. Their jurisdiction is within the business.

If this was primarily an investigation of the external actors, this would be talking about what law enforcement are doing.

The wording of the announcement is pretty neutral but I think it's clear what is within and without their bailiwick. The title is a much more informative description than "Statement from the board".

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> board of directors have no jurisdiction to investigate an "influence operation on their CEO", and even if they did, they have no power to do anything about it

They don't need to, but of course they can. You hire investigators and an outside law firm to dig stuff up.

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It's not an editorial headline when it's straight from the source lol. This is the official NVidia press release.

Do you seriously think NVidia wants to have more eyeballs on this scandal?

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It is literally not straight from the source.

Source:

"initiating an independent investigation in light of recent reporting that founder and CEO Jensen Huang has been the target of a foreign intelligence effort."

They are investigating a situation where their CEO was the target of an Op - that's totally reasonable and doesn't remotely hint that he has done something wrong.

This is the right thing for the board to do: "We are investigating the situation because we have been informed that foreign actors may have targeted our staff".

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Unless he has been up front with the board from the beginning about his affair, he has done something wrong.

This is Jensen Huang we are talking about. One of the most significantly influential people on earth right now, one of the planet’s most obvious espionage and blackmail targets, someone who both companies and nations will be spying on, and he is shagging a foreign national — a Chinese citizen! — in secret.

Even if he has enlisted no company employees or resources in his deception of his wife, this is remarkably negligent behaviour on a professional level. Just enormous.

Be serious: this is a huge deal and they are for sure looking at his conduct.

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I, as a shareholder, do not care if the CEO is having an affair so long as the business is not affected. If you can establish the latter, then his personal conduct is between him and his partner.

What I am extra curious about is why is Alice Huang not being rigorously investigated prior to or alongside all of this? If these allegations are true then what she did amounts to treason and a variety of other things. Failing to register as a foreign agent is another. She, at the very least, should be held by the US the same way we hold other foreign nationals charged with treason.

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> I, as a shareholder, do not care if the CEO is having an affair so long as the business is not affected

There are 100 different ways that the CEO falling victim to an espionage plot could impact the business.

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Please use the whole quote:

> I, as a shareholder, do not care if the CEO is having an affair so long as the business is not affected. If you can establish the latter, then his personal conduct is between him and his partner.

If you read the second sentence then you and I agree. I care if the business is affected, I don't if it is not and then the rest of this is a personal matter that doesn't need to be a news story because it is gossip.

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Perhaps there should be an investigation? Perhaps the existing awareness of this relationship of his is cause for the board announcing publicly this investigation?
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Yes. For one, it makes them vulnerable to blackmail, so their decisions can no longer be trusted.
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But the cat is out of the bag, so the blackmail won't work anymore.
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> I, as a shareholder, do not care if the CEO is having an affair so long as the business is not affected.

This is actually a pretty challenging standard, because the moment the CEO tries to gaslight their spouse/partner that it's not an affair, they are already at risk of bringing the company into a deception: working late is almost always the cover, for one thing. But at that moment you have a substantially compromised person as a CEO.

This might seem a silly place to draw the line, but consider what the escalations are — the CEO's PA being asked to mislead the spouse, inventing a meeting they were at, inventing an away trip, etc. etc.; they always mount up. There is no executive who has an affair who doesn't pretend they are at work, and there's no pretence that doesn't ultimately put an employee in a difficult position.

It's entirely reasonable for a board to say that if the CEO or the chairman is having an affair it is their business.

And this is before you even consider that the affair is ordinarily likely to be with an employee.

Now, if a CEO at Huang's level of geopolitical importance is having an affair with anyone, it's the government's business, and the shareholders', because it makes them a (local and international, commercial and state-level) blackmail and espionage target even if they are not literally boffing a spy, which in this case he evidently is.

So yeah, it matters.

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I'm sorry, but how can a Chinese national living in Singapore be charged for treason in US? Doesn't the concept of treason presume some kind of loyalty to the state in question, usually through citizenship?
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Right. Nothing much that can be done here, though she might not want to visit relatives on holiday.
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Yup treason is the correct term if Alice Huang were a US Citizen. But they're not.
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> I, as a shareholder, do not care if the CEO is having an affair so long as the business is not affected.

This is really naive. And I bet other people could do other questionable things that you'd consider to color their entire character and render them untrustworthy.

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I, as a shareholder, do care. It isnt about moralism. Sony america lost their ceo because he was banging some 20yo as a perk to sign a contract with another media company and she got mad about it when her side didnt pan out (no acting roles).

It is bad for business. Thats all. Him doing this is bad for Nvidia and bad for shareholders.

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If nothing else, it's a distraction. And it tarnishes the street's golden image of NVIDIA.
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That is a quid pro quo, that is not the same as simply having an affair with another powerful executive.
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What is wrong with these VIPs? I always thought when you become a big, important CEO or politician, they gave you The Book and the first chapter says "Just bang your hot Chinese mistress. Don't tell her any secrets." Jeez, how dumb are these guys?
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Have you tried having sex with someone for an extended time and not catching some emotions? It's tough.
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You in a few years time: "I can't believe this person who lied and cheated, lied and cheated to ME."
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I think you'll be rather disappointed. This is a view I've held since college that's stayed with me to this day. The same logic I see on display in this thread is what I heard when Republicans were going after Bill Clinton. The fact that he lied was the cherry on top, they were very eager to charge him with some kind of moral crime. The fact that the moral crime existed was a giant distraction to the actual risks, and the risks largely didn't exist if the moral crime did not exist.
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If someone is willing to cheat on their spouse, do you think they'll have any compunction about cheating their employees and shareholders?
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Cheating employees is practically entry level stakes for being a CEO. Not only is it tolerated, it's celebrated(at least in the United States).

Cheating shareholders, esp large ones is a big no no since there are real consequences for CEOs engaging in such behaviour.

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I certainly don't condone it but nonetheless the underlying motivations as well as the potential consequences of those behaviors seem almost entirely unrelated to me.
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In both cases, someone breaches a confidential trust in order to pursue a self-serving motivation, and lies in order to avoid potential consequences.
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It's myopic of you to assume that every marriage is the same and that having mistress would constitute a breach of confidential trust.
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I made no such assumption. My post was about “cheating,” because that is what Huang did.
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It speaks more to not having entered into a compatible relationship than anything else. I've been in a situationship where effectively if my state still had common law marriage, we'd be married, but there's no cheating in the relationship because frankly we're on the same page that these labels are a form of control to begin with. One can only get blackmailed by something one is embarrassed about. I don't believe in vice as a concept that anything but artificially created low-hanging fruit by authorities to create leverage out of normal human activities, so feel free to blackmail me on who I sleep with or not sleep with, I... don't care. Once the statute of limitation passes, same goes for drug use or other victimless crimes that are "against society". The state created the situation that opens one up to blackmail for no reason besides the enforcement of one particular set of perceived norms. As an individual, I call bullshit on the coercion. If societal pressure is all that is responsible to create the rationale and reason for deception, how can it not be fundamentally a crock of shit.

There's no indication that there's nonconsent involved, nor any actual espionage. this is a way to impress upon someone a set of moral code that is arbitrary and capricious with extreme social coercion. To judge by that standard is pretty close to the anti-gay hysteria of the McCarthyist era. Enough is enough.

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No little kid whose dad cheated on their mom thinks "vice" is an artificial construct designed to control people.

And it's not like "McCarthyists" invented the concept of adultery being bad. Almost every major culture developed the concept independently. The Abrahamic religions, Chinese confucianism, Buddhism, and Hinduism had little contact with each other 2,000 years ago, but all developed the notion of adultery as a major moral transgression.

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Well he wrote that he was deeply sorry to his family, so presumably his relationship is not as libertine as yours.
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I mean, the last 3 paragraphs of NVidia's statement are:

> While the Board has no reason to believe that either national security or NVIDIA secrets were compromised, the Board's inquiry will examine all available information.

> Jensen fully supports the review and has committed to cooperating with it.

> The Board has confidence in Jensen and his leadership team and will provide further updates as appropriate.

My interpretation of this is simply this is what you do when you are the board of a public company and the U.S. government has accused your CEO of being the target of espionage. You need to get the facts, if only to cover your own asses. If it turns out the accusations are hogwash, then you have facts of your own that you can release to counter whatever hogwash the government puts out. If it turns out your CEO committed a crime or otherwise did something improper, then you need to dismiss the CEO to prevent your complicity in the crime. If it turns out there holes in your security protocols around top executives, you need to plug those holes.

But until you have the facts, coming from an independent investigation, neither they nor us have any clue what the right response is.

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> this is what you do when you are the board of a public company

No, it's not. In a majority of cases where a public-company Board independently investigates its CEO, the CEO gets removed [1]. (And they're all announced like this. If you're in that 40% where you don't remove the CEO, you don't want to have burned them.)

If the Board still unconditionally trusted Jensen, they'd have him hire outside counsel to conduct an independent investigation of NVIDIA's security apparatus.

[1] https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/faculty-research/publications/s...

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40% is a pretty high percentage where they don't get removed.
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There's some kind of a cognitive bias here similar to the base rate fallacy but not quite the same.

Yes, 40% is pretty high in the abstract. But a 60% chance of getting removed is insanely high compared to the base rate for this concrete case! Before this news broke, what were the odds of Huang not being a CEO of Nvidia a year from now for any reason. I'd definitely have taken the under at 1%, and the over maybe at 0.1%?

Like, what other risks were on the horizon? Him getting bored or tired? Not that man. A terminal illness that was diagnosed too late to treat? That happens very rarely for the ultra rich with their access to infinite high quality health care. A freak accident, e.g. airplane crash? Possible, but the rates are <<1%. Targeted violence? Unlikely, Nvidia is too far removed to be hated that strongly by anyone. The board firing him for some other reason? It'd have to be something that can't be papered over with hush money (e.g. any standard sex scandal almost certainly could; it's only the national security aspects that make it impossible here). A hostile takeover or similar that leads to him being ousted? Logistically and financially impossible.

Going from so rare it's not worth planning for to even odds is a pretty darn big shift from a single event!

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> 40% is a pretty high percentage where they don't get removed

It's very low for a CYA exercise.

Boards don't independently investigate their CEOs as a matter of routine or to cover their asses. That's what an independent investigation by outside counsel is for. The Board taking the reins on this is absolutely substantial to anyone who understands how corporate Boards work.

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We'll see.

Another way to put this is "Do you feel comfortable shorting NVDA tomorrow morning based on this news?" Because if Huang is removed it's very likely they will face challenges finding and reacting the next big use-case for GPUs, not to mention capitalizing on AI (which already is seeming shaky for other reasons). If you're completely confident that this will result in his removal, it seems like there's easy money to be made here.

Personally I don't feel comfortable enough to put my money where my mouth is. I'd give it even odds, but even odds, to me, is not enough to say it'll go one way or another.

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> Because if Huang is removed it's very likely they will face challenges finding and reacting the next big use-case for GPUs

Huang has done a fine job managing NVidia, but he's also the poster child for "better lucky than good."

It's not like he led NVidia out of dire straits to pivot into the cryptocurrency/blockchain, and then AI, bubbles. They were making hardware for computer graphics, and that just so happened to be the same foundational hardware for the two biggest technology bubbles of the 21st century, twice in a row.

I find it hard to believe NVidia's incredible success can be attributed exclusively to him. Sometimes you're just in the right place at the right time.

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They’ve been in the right place at the right time too many times.

It’s a bit like when you watch a fantastic FPS player play, they just always seem to be in the right place to catch the other guy off guard.

Huang didn’t know exactly what was coming - but he knew enough and managed to put NV into a position where it could quickly exploit whatever did emerge.

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> twice in a row

If I ever hit a home run in baseball, it would be blind luck. If I did it twice, nah, that would be incredibly unlikely, as I have zero talent at any ball sports.

Gates, Jobs, and Musk - each had a home run 3 times. That is so unlikely to be happenstance, ya gotta admit they had talent.

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I'm not a fan of Jensen by any means, but he did start the CUDA program some eight years before it was actually useful (the alexnet moment). He called the need for high performance linear algebra for scientific computing, it just took a while for it to find its first killer app.
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CUDA was well-used in HPC and other compute-intensive spaces long before neural nets were in style.

If you look at the evolution of GPGPU computing, at least from an HPC perspective, CUDA is almost an obvious step. What’s perplexing is that AMD and Intel let it get so far ahead in the late 2000s and early 2010s.

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CUDA was a formalization of what happened outside of NV.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA#History

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That was becoming a hot topic at the time prior to DL getting on the map but it was smart to recognize the latent demand for GPGPU. Was still going to lead to solid growth with AI was just not going to be the exponential growth we saw if it didn't happen.
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Meanwhile intel (as but one prominent example) was also researching and manufacturing GPUs for most (all?) of that timeline yet somehow managed to fumble it. Quite often IMO simply not screwing up while already holding all of the necessary cards is a lot harder than it looks.
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> Another way to put this is "Do you feel comfortable shorting NVDA tomorrow morning based on this news?"

This is a silly way to read corporate governance. There exist finer levers for tuning up and down exposure than going long or short.

> If you're completely confident that this will result in his removal

Straw man. Nobody argued this.

What's being argued is that the top comment's implication–that this is par for the course–is bullshit. The Board is signaling a partial loss of confidence in their CEO. There is also substantial risk, though no assurance, that Jensen will step down.

> I'd give it even odds

That's what about 50% chances mean.

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Sure, but everything you're describing here accurately falls under the label of "investigating the CEO".
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Accurate literally, but misleading to anyone who speaks English.
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