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upvoteby ttul1 days ago|
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Really? A $200/mo plan gives you an enormous amount of inference on this model.
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upvoteby LeBit1 days ago|
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200$USD is a lot of money for a lot of people.

It might explain why DeepSeek Flash v4.1 1017 is the most popular model at OpenRouter.

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upvoteby ttul1 days ago|
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I agree that's a lot of money for many people. But I just can't wrap my head around complaints about $200 a month to access that must computing power. It's worth $12,000 of API tokens (and that's without accounting for the three resets they granted today to many subscribers).

I would suggest calibrating what "a lot" means. In terms of dollars per unit of intelligence, it's extremely cost effective.

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upvoteby LeBit1 days ago|
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If Anthropic were telling you you were getting 500,000$ worth of compute for 5,000$ a month, would you still consider this a bargain?

People don’t care what the costs for the LLM providers are. They are paying for a service. 30$ a month is reasonable for a lot of devs. 100$ is a lot for many. 200$ is unreasonable for personal usage for most.

Everybody understands the economics are all skewed and this tech requires a lot of resources / compute. There are still absolutes in terms of pricing that are not acceptable/affordable by most.

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upvoteby ddxv1 days ago|
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Maybe I'm too cynical, but I've never trusted the worth $x of API tokens. It's like seeing an advertisement say $299 of value now for $19.99. It's not an actual number right? that $12,000 of "API Value" is just some made up marketing number isn't it?

I'm open to learning more, not trying to ask a rhetorical question.

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upvoteby rob1 days ago|
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Not everybody on HN works for a California startup and makes $500k a year. An extra $200 a month is a huge expense for a lot of people, especially those making < $100,000/year, which is a good portion probably.
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upvoteby andriy_koval1 days ago|
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> It might explain why DeepSeek Flash v4.1 1017 is the most popular model at OpenRouter.

by number of tokens? Also, we don't know numbers for native cli tools.

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upvoteby hbn1 days ago|
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You won't lose the house, everybody has three mortgages nowadays!
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upvoteby mortalapeman1 days ago|
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What you need for real engineering and scaling is cheap and just enough smarts. I've found GPT 6 Luna to be cheap enough that I can pretend the cost doesn't exist and it's smart enough that I can get real work done. This let's me scale it in ways that I can't scale frontier models. And funny enough, the LLM I have running on my 5070 Ti is just about comparable to what I get from Luna. Unless frontier intelligence gets waaaaaay cheaper I basically don't care about them.
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upvoteby iammrpayments1 days ago|
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I’m happy with $20 plan. Almost never get limited and opus 5.5 can do almost everything I need.
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upvoteby ChaseRensberger1 days ago|
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as long as anthropic requires me to use their trash UIs to use their amazing models, ill stick to other providers.
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upvoteby cyanydeez1 days ago|
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how much?
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