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Last time I checked, it was possible to update the firmware of Nitrokeys. Which seems to completely defeat the purpose of the device?

They started selling the Nitrokey 3 long (like years) before the software had the main features they claimed they had, so I understand why they would want to be able to push updates. But again in terms of security, the first thing I want from a security key is that a compromised computer cannot reflash it...

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> Last time I checked, it was possible to update the firmware of Nitrokeys. Which seems to completely defeat the purpose of the device?

Yeah. Precisely my problem with Nitrokey too.

If you can flash it, then so will a bad-guy one day. Not if, but when. You really can't say never anymore these days.

The flashing process is also annoying and fragile, I bought a couple of Nitrokeys for random testing and generally found myself haivng to repeat the process a couple of times before it finally worked.

Also, IIRC not all Nitrokeys have a secure enclave, a bunch just store secrets in software.

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Interested also in pragmatic feedback about Nitrokeys, oss sw and hw is quite a compelling advantage over yubikeys
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for most use cases they're functionally the same. the biggest difference for me is that nitrokey doesn't support doing hmac-sha1 challenge, so i can't use the nitrokey with keepassxc.

fido, gpg, piv all work perfectly

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Many people have issues with nitro key as a business.

Something about stealing an iPhone jailbreak years ago?

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wrong nitrokey

the ios thing was in 2009. the company that produces nitrokey security hardware was founded in 2015

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