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The AI companies doing their own scraping wouldn't be a problem if they'd to it in a reasonable way. But instead they hammer the same site over and over for data that hasn't been changed, or request the same data in different formats, or through interfaces that aren't efficient.
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It was what's commonly called illegal piracy on a commercial basis and gigantic scale. That normally leads to hefty prison sentences. I've always been against this legal classification and think piracy should be allowed for non-commercial purposes or at least only be considered a very minor crime, but in the present example the piracy was clearly for commercial gains, a company using the illegally obtained material to create essential features of commercial products.

Agreements with publishers after the fact shouldn't even count, particularly since all copyright holders weren't consulted. I wouldn't have given my permission, for example.

It's important to stress that the media were not legally acquired by most US frontier AI companies if not all of them.

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> Theft/stolen implies it's been taken and the owner deprived of it.

Nope! Theft of the proceeds.

The media may have been legally acquired, but it was done so by violating the intentions and purposes of the content creators.

In other words, people poured their time and attention into something hoping for a return, and got this, instead. And now this is obviating the venues by which creators hoped to receive their social/cultural dividend.

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I mean, in a legal sense, no -- it's not theft of the proceeds. You may mean that you think it's morally/philosophically similar to that, in the same sense as piracy and other IP violation, but these things are very specifically not classified as theft from a legal standpoint.

Violating the intentions and purposes of the creators is in some cases an IP violation, and in others it isn't -- it all depends on the details. A lot of AI training on IP-protected materials can fit into the bucket that isn't an IP violation (or any other legal violation), though much of the historical actual training data wasn't collected this way.

IP creators don't have an amorphous right to "a return" or to have their intentions and purposes strictly respected. They have very specific rights in law, and those often don't match up 1:1 with expectations, and almost never with a specific set of the creator's intent (except where that aligns with already-existing law).

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They aren't making a legal claim, "What they did was technically legal" is almost never a compelling argument in favor of behavior, and the fact that people can't expect legal protections from this behavior is exactly why they're taking matters into their own hands, leading to the information protectionism that started this comment thread.
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