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Kings were also famously out of touch with reality. Hierarchies, if left alone to grow this tall, do this to people.
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Only the bad kings and they soon found out about it.

You would do well to look at the history beyond the modern era.

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It's so common, the French have a word for it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roi_fain%C3%A9ant

More than a century of "do-nothing kings" who did not "soon find out about it".

Inertia and corruption are the default state. If we want nice things we have to be vigilant about letting power concentrate.

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"Nearly any man can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power" - Honest Abe
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I hope you can see the conceit in this answer as well. Being powerless is perhaps a great test of character.
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> Why are all the tech overlords scum people?

like sleeping Jensen Huang with an incredibly attractive Chinese agent that specifically showed traits he found desirable and exploit what ever weaknesses the Chinese spy agency could find about him to get him involved with her and divulge secrets in a SEXINT operation. Therefore Jensen is one of the worst people who are public figures.

I don't like CEO worship or tech culture (I know I am on hackernews but I am a developer and did like software development and related topics), but this take is crazy most people you know would probably take the bait on an operation like this even 'good' people.

And just take a look at the scum running things outside of Tech a lot worse then a moment of infedality, look at all western leaders you will probably find few better (or even equal) to Jensen. Jensen did not shape the shitshow you are seeing now (not saying he is not part of it), it was corrupt from the start, Just a worthless veneer of morality.

Don't morn your societies decay it was a cadaver from the beginning only by putrefaction will it become the soil to plant strong trees on.

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Why did you have to "quote" something no one said to make your point? That's a huge tell you're arguing against a straw man. This post was after a second affair, to me that's a moral flaw, not just someone exploiting him.

And that "scum also exist outside tech" is just a whataboutism. It'd be a better discussion if you actually interacted with my arguments.

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> Why did you have to "quote" something no one said to make your point?

> Why did you have to "quote" something no one said to make your point?

Was not trying to be dishonest but was meant to be what I felt you comment boiled down to, I will revise my comment to change the '>'.

> And that "scum also exist outside tech" is just a whataboutism.

What I was saying is not just that scum exists outside tech but that the society that created this tech culture and space is the curruption it's self and it's not worth thinking about as something to save but to replace entirely.

> This post was after a second affair, to me that's a moral flaw, not just someone exploiting him.

I am not saying it's not a moral flaw but compared what Trump has done Epstein, wars, etc. He looks like a Saint. It's pointless even talking about morality in the way you do when Trump and his weak cronies are in power. (and yes I know Nvidia under Jesen no doubt has benefit from this corruption). Infidelity is so common in are time but if only that was the worst of it.

What I was saying is not just that scum exists outside tech

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That's an excellent question and I've been wondering about this a lot. I've known a few billionaires, exactly one was an amazing person, the rest were absolutely terrible people in every sense of the word. The whole word is full of NPCs to them. But your question goes to the heart of it: were they terrible people because that's a requirement for becoming a billionaire or did becoming a billionaire somewhere along the line turn them into terrible people?

I haven't found the answer. But I do know one thing from my (smallish) sample: the nice guy never let the money get to his head. He drove his own car (a VW Rabbit, ok, a nice one) and lived in the same house that he lived in when he started his company. And until the day he died he just kept doing what he loved without ever feeling the need to lord it over others. More like a Wozniak (who is the other 'nice billionaire' that I'm aware of but I've never met him).

Edit: I wrote about him:

https://jacquesmattheij.com/in-memoriam-rene-sommer/

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The question is are the 'good' people you know actually good.

A human being is so unlikely to be good on their own, pretty much all cultures practiced infanticide and child sacrifice and pederasty and only changed because a few hated these practices and forced them to stop.

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You're mixing individuals and groups in a way that I can't really say much about it. I was talking exclusively about individuals that I've known personally beyond sitting at the same table or working for them with three layers of indirection.
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Fair enough, for me I suppose for me the vast majority of people are deep down terrible and only made good because they have been made to be. I can imagine what you say is very true and no doubt the vast majority of billionaires are horrible and their untouchableness no doubt makes that so.

But a lot of people the only moment they get to act in an unaccountable manor will act very badly. This is not all people but probably above 90%.

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I think there is a level where you are no longer accountable in the way that ordinary people are accountable and I suspect that this is the reason why it happens, but my suspicions are worth absolutely nothing and given that these people are - in spite of the vast amount of information we seem to have about them - so in control of the narratives of their lives that it is impossible to make a diagnosis that will stick. So I will revert to the default: I don't know, but the sample I've seen makes me suspect that there is more to this than just coincidence.
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Edison v. Tesla is probably informative here, the system rewards scummy behavior.
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"a certain kind of person from the start"
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