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I think money’s not really the game for these guys, at least not for its own sake, it’s being able to bend the course of the world. People who don’t have enough usually seem to think it’s about consumption and wonder how they can be so greedy, but you can only consume so much, and that’s generally impossible to see in the rear view mirror for this group.

by guywithahat12 hours ago|

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Trump famously banned Epstein from his golf course and worked with the FBI during his first arrest. They famously hated each other, and were not friends

by zimpenfish11 hours ago|

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> Trump famously banned Epstein from his golf course

(all sourced from [0])

Well, they had a spat in 2000 because Epstein was poaching Trump's staff but he remained a member until 2007 (or possibly longer, depending on who you believe.)

> They famously hated each other

In 2002, Trump said "I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with." I don't know, it doesn't sound very "hatey" to me.

In 2003, he sent his birthday message of "A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy Birthday – and may every day be another wonderful secret." Still not getting much "hate" from this relationship.

I'll give you, maybe, from 2007 onwards they fell out of friendship but even then it's not clear what actually went on.

Maybe once we get a fuller release of the Epstein Files we'll know more.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relationship_of_Donald_Trump_a...

by parrellel8 hours ago|

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... allegedly for poaching the "talent"

Before that they seem very much to have been friends.