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The thing is that at this point, even if this was all a plot to take him down, it worked! Can't go back to the information not being public.

He's operating in a highly charged political environment in which his credibility is a key asset. He can't effectively advocate for NVIDIA's interests if his credibility is damaged.

And this goes directly to his credibility on the most politically charged issue of all: The geopolitical rivalry between the US and China, and NVIDIA's role in it.

I agree it's a tragedy for NVIDIA, he seems to have been exceptional as a CEO, it's just too late now.

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It definitely worked. It shows just how powerful the media is at creating narratives.

This one looks highly coordinated with multiple mainstream media outlets piling in.

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To be fair this is the kind of thing the media and the public love to follow. Public powerful figure, sex, spying, political and business schemes, and additionally most retail investors being exposed to NVDA, it has everything. Doesn't mean it wasn't coordinated at first to get it in the spotlight, but there is no need for that now I think.
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> It shows just how powerful the media is at creating narratives

As far as I can tell, most of the reports were just recounting factual information. The narrative was already there. The media didn't create it.

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We can't be so gullible that we think this wasn't deliberate right?

This X post makes a lot of sense: https://x.com/antfeedapp/status/2120454507448651933

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> We can't be so gullible that we think this wasn't deliberate right?

What do you mean by "this"? One thing I agree with is that we knew about this story for months. I've read about Jensen's affair with Alice Huang and her ties to the Chinese government at least five months ago.

The thing that triggered the current reporting was the new sourcing about U.S. intelligence findings that came out in late October. So mainstream news started reporting on it once they had sources they found trustworthy.

The confusing thing, though, is not that the story suddenly became big, but why it didn't become big much earlier.

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Further, some of this has been out in the open and questioned for a year or two and the media said little if anything.
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The question is why does the board care?

They could have easily just waited a month or two and let this all just go away.

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The board doesn't care. They probably knew about all of this and employees knew about the affair with his direct report as well for years.

It's the outside pressure.

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So the interesting question is who and how are they applying that pressure.

Does it just come down to virtue signaling pressure? The board preferring to protect it's own image vs what's best for the company?

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Again, repeating my comment from the Jensen thread a few days ago: this is like directly from the David Fincher movie "Gone Girl".

I recommend watching it if the power of media interests you.

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The moment where Rosamund Pike looks at the camera in that way (being vague, but I think people who've watched it will remember) is just incredible.
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Also likely all gamers and home GPU users in general.
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He's a strong advocate for gaming. That's why he started Nvidia in the first place.

I think whoever is next will not always have the affinity for gaming. Any finance person who looks at the unit economics of gaming would conclude that they should allocate next to no chip supply to gaming GPUs.

An RTX 5090 is the same die size as a server GPU.

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as nvidia goes into making purely big-business hardware, some other player will arrive to provide the chips to the masses. then, the researchers will use this mass-market hardware for research, supplanting nvidia itself.

nvidia got their strong position in AI now by providing CUDA to researchers who couldn't afford their own supercomputing cluster. and now the entirety of machine learning revolves around CUDA.

once you fixate on the business and lock out the masses, you instantly elect to become a fossil like IBM.

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Not instantly. It'll take a very long time to fall. As IBM stubbornly fails to completely do.
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They stopped manufacturing the 5090 even under Jensens control. And no the 5090 die is only 750mm squared big, a B200s die is 1628mm squared. That is more than twice the size of a 5090.
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A B200 is two dies glued together. A single Blackwell GPU die is the same size as an RTX 5090 basically.

An RTX 5090 is a reticle sized chip.

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the 6000 pro definitely counts as a server GPU. coreweave seems to think so, anyway
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Wasn’t the CEO of AMD his cousin? I guess it would match the GoT comparison…
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The mass population hate AI and billionaires and are perfectly happy with seeing an AI billionaire FAFO.
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Oh look! We have a list of suspects :-)

That’s what I think it’s going on… the “allegations” are ridiculous at best. He is the most “normal” of the bunch by a long short.

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He’s is the CEO of NVIDIA since 33 years, he cofounded the company. This allegations are really minuscule.
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He seems to have broken the law. That should have consequences. That he cofounded the company should not matter. Neither should it matter that many rich people get away with breaking the law in other cases.
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It’s not about that, it’s about the cloud compute loophole of export restricted chips. NVIDIA sold billions worth of chips to Megaspeed, a Chinese company spin out in Singapore founded right after the export ban. Neocloud Megaspeed rented most of their compute to Chinese companies like Alibaba circumventing the sanctions. The investigations didn’t find any wrongdoing per se even if it’s very obvious that the whole Megaspeed operation is Chinese state orchestration. Labelling Alice as a spy put an immediate hold to all of this.
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What law did he break?
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He coordinated with an agent of a foreign state to bypass sanctions.

Like, internal Nvidia KYC policy changed per Huang to facilitate GPU sales to Megaspeed.

Whether or not he realized it, cared, or was aware and doing it on purpose, he was acting as an enormously powerful lobbyist and influencer on the US as an agent of China.

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IF Alice was a spy, and IF he was blackmailed into selling gpus to an ally of the CCP, thus breaking sanctions, he did break law. But both of those are a stretch atp
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Foreign laymen here: if these are true, would they be considered treasonous?
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Not in the US. The US has a very specific definition of treason in its constitution, and this case would not fit it.

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court."

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Trump knew about the spy. For a Year. So any selling of GPU's might have had some under the table agreement. The US allowed it. Maybe this is why China helped with the oil crisis.
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