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Don't mix "the HN crowd" with "coder crowd", then everything on this website is becoming clearer...

Most people people here do not code. They wish they do, but they don't.

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code without business is just a puzzle. an IT department exists within a business, it's not adult daycare.
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That's exactly my point, programming isn't your IT department, "cool things that can be done with computers" isn't even on speaking terms with it, and the web is not a sector of marketing, either. Bores turn everything they touch boring, and now they're telling us we'll be left behind. And I'm like, YES, finally, can't wait, what can I do to accelerate it?
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