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by Animats1 hours ago |
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upvoteby United85725 minutes ago|
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All European and Mexican departures to the US have been stopped: https://x.com/sentdefender/status/2121381457683964308
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upvoteby moondev1 hours ago|
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Update, 3:00 P.M.: Pacific bound flights are cleared to depart, including Hawaii and Asia.
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upvoteby peterleiser44 minutes ago|
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Makes sense. CNN reported that international airlines were still departing for North Atlantic flights, apparently because they use a separate communications system.
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upvoteby lxgr30 minutes ago|
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Yeah, oceanic flights largely use satellite-based CPDLC today, or HF voice as a fallback, but not VOR in any case (which I suspect is the implicated system here).
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upvoteby Animats12 minutes ago|
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VHF Omnirange (VOR)[1] is unlikely to be involved. VOR stations are not dependent on a network. All they need is power. It's 1950s technology. The big ring of antennas next to US 101 just north of SJC is a VOR.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VHF_omnidirectional_range

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upvoteby Jagerbizzle1 hours ago|
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Source?
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upvoteby the_mar1 hours ago|
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upd: sfo resumed international flights to asia

flights departing hawaii and alaska are also allowed

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upvoteby jjulius51 minutes ago|
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Actually true.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50491511

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upvoteby dang39 minutes ago|
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I'm stuck at SFO and a flight for Hawaii just boarded perhaps 20 minutes ago. I don't think it has taken off yet though.
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upvoteby the_mar33 minutes ago|
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two flights to tpe and a flight to tokyo took off since 3
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upvoteby Maxion1 hours ago|
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Surprised there's not been any updates yet. Not even one of this will continue or it is being resolved.
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upvoteby awefkjawelfkja01 hours ago|
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Sec of Homeland Security gave an interview about 10 minutes ago saying it's indefinite, they don't know the cause, and to expect resolution to take a while.
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upvoteby AnneTrotter47 minutes ago|
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Oh wow. That's not really good, is it.

Economy taking a lot of crazy hits this week. They're footgun hits too, not even enemy action.

Edit: ok so one of them was maybe a little bit enemy action.

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upvoteby tempestn36 minutes ago|
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I'd say that's not really known yet, although there's certainly a footgun element at least.
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upvoteby kraken_cult24 minutes ago|
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I'm sure Jensen had some enemy action.
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upvoteby m_fayer15 minutes ago|
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There’s only so long the American wall of competence can be chipped at by stupid, before bigger chunks start dropping. Watch out below.
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upvoteby neves1 hours ago|
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When will we congratulate all the AI companies for this?

Probably someone prompted an agent: solve global CO2 emissions :-)

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upvoteby ignoramous30 minutes ago|
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> When will we congratulate all the AI companies for this?

5 days from now? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50465829

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upvoteby freediddy1 hours ago|
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SFO had delays this morning because of winds. I'm not sure if LA also had bad weather, but SFO had a lot of rain and if you know SFO, you'll encounter a delay if someone sneezes in the direction of the runways.
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upvoteby fizx1 hours ago|
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I actually got out surprisingly on time at 10:30am. The other airport at landing was chaos though.
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upvoteby reaperducer1 hours ago|
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Info on this is amazingly sparse. Apparently Sec. Duffy posted something on X/Twitter, and that's all the news media have

Maybe look further than Twitter.

The legitimate media from the New York Times to CNN and beyond all showed video of Markwayne Mullin's news conference 20 minutes before your post.

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upvoteby randysalami1 hours ago|
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upvoteby llama0521 hours ago|
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I'd be quicker to assume that the problem is within. AI related or not.
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upvoteby Jamesbeam1 hours ago|
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You need to go outside, take a walk and then have a hot chocolate.

All is well, this is not the AIpocalypse. Just some dude fucking up something stupid, as usual.

Update before I can no longer edit:

> The Federal Aviation Administration told airlines the nationwide outages that prompted the ground stop were the result of a problem with network routers, according to an airline source.

> The problem is believed to have started at Chicago Midway International Airport and cascaded nationwide.

> A spokeswoman for the military’s Northern Command and the North American Aerospace Defense Command, or NORAD, said there was no evidence yet that the telecommunication outage was the result of any nefarious action by domestic or foreign actors.

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upvoteby daishi551 hours ago|
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What possible basis could you have for saying this?
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upvoteby Jamesbeam58 minutes ago|
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A decade of experience solving nationwide problems because someone somewhere did something stupid, before I retired.
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upvoteby hypeman11 hours ago|
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This is a pretty reductive response given the circumstances.
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upvoteby Jamesbeam1 hours ago|
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If you prefer a more lengthy answer.

If there was an attack on your country, my phone wouldn’t stop ringing, just like it did 9/11.

All I am getting is pictures of baked cookies right now. So there is no attack on your country.

Planes are not falling out of the sky, as you can see on publicly available platforms. Nothing is exploding on the ground, besides the poor souls choosing Taco Bell for dinner.

I am confident you will not be abducted or murdered by Aliens today either, pinky promise.

So whatever happens is not an immediate danger to the planes still in the air. And no danger to anyone on the ground.

The most simple explanation is that the communication between ground and air is not working properly, and as this is necessary to safely fly thousands of planes simultaneously, they should rather stay on the ground for safety reasons until they figure out what is wrong.

If you have any specific concerns not addressed above, feel free to share them.

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