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Can you both please stop posting in the flamewar style? It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

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> We don't have to care how much money Zuckerberg wastes. Do you lie awake at night wondering how much money I waste?

Goalpost shift. Your original point was that leadership of the private sector is responsible for waste. I’ve shown an example of a CEO wasting unconscionable amounts of money and not being responsible whatsoever.

> I 've worked on government contracts. Yes, there are piles and piles of administrative overhead heaped onto everything that gets done (with a material budget).

I never said there wasn’t. I said the private sector wastes more, with less accountability and shittier justifications.

Also, the only reason you even know that the government wasted any money at all is exactly the bloat you’re complaining about.

> Can we even call what the government runs on these a ... "budget" with "accountability"? LOL

Not really. The debt ceiling is legal wordplay introduced by republicans so they can bitch about democrats spending the country into debt (which is hilarious given debts reliably go up far, far more under republican stewardship). But a state that can print money for the cost of paper (of which the US is basically the only one) simply isn’t subject to a lot of traditional market forces. As we’ve seen with our debt now what, 40 trillion? With only now some meaningful effects on on-the-ground economics.

That’s not to say it never will, of course, but at least through history if you look at how the US operated when it was a functioning state, it’s pretty clear the money is made up and the rules don’t matter to Uncle Sam. His checks always cash and huge swathes of the global economy are constructed in a way that reflects that reality.

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Can you both please stop posting in the flamewar style? It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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