> I think only apple kind of has any where near that level of trust.
replyI'll trust them when I can inspect their source code and chip schematics.
It does not matter if you trust them as long as non technical people do. Because HN crowd is less than 1% or people. People trust apple way more than meta.
reply> People trust apple way more than meta.
replyI think it's more a case of the HN crowd trusts Apple way more than Meta.
Meta has ~3.5 billion users while Apple has ~2.5 billion users and Meta is one of their top app developers, which suggests people trust both of these companies way more than they should.
"Trust" and "use the services of" are very different things
replyAgreed, dozens of countries rely on Facebook for even government. Plenty of EU countries for example assume WhatsApp to a point where it's practically non-negotiable if you want to participate in the economy at all.
reply> strip out pictures of people and PII by default
replyYou trust Meta to do this unfailingly, without making an exception for themselves which you will consent to somwhere in a 30 page user agreement or a dark pattern in the UI?
That goes against the very soul of their being as demonstrated by everything they've done to date.
If meta actually wanted to sell consumer electronics to people. They have no choice but to actually compete with apple and apple will beat them in the poll "would you buy this exactly same ___ device from Apple or Meta?" at least today in 2026.
replyIf they can strip out pictures of people and PII by default from video feed and enforce explicit consent(digitally).
replySeriously, trust Meta to do anything privacy preserving? Besides that, they also record audio.