Not enough. Many people are running Superwhisper and the like on their machines that capture the audio stream directly out of the OS and applications. Even if all the cloud recorders are removed, you must assume that unless you have the entire security provenance chain of the other person's device verified, that your words are being recorded. And fed to whatever nebulous cloud AI and services that person uses.
replyEven then, it's easy enough now to have a second device capture the audio, like a phone as well. Being able to reflect on meeting notes is such a powerful valuable thing for people, you can assume they are almost certainly going to be doing it.
The world is becoming dystopian at a rapid pace... These capabilities will be weaponized against people in ways we can't even dream of yet.
replyWe already have products that provide active countermeasures against recording devices, an audio jammer of sorts that renders microphones unable to pick up anything. I wonder how effective they are.
Its often seen as an imposition to do so, so it depends on how the power structure runs if someone is comfortable asking
replyYou can still ask. If you're too afraid to even do that, then the alternative is to be guarded during the conversation. But you can choose which path to take.
replyReally? In my everyday people always ask "Is it okay for my/our notetaker to join the meeting?"
replyMight be a German/European thing though...
Yes I do this constantly? It has never been an issue.
replyYeah, if they refuse then that is also a signal about how much they truly value you (and not an insignificant one either).
replyIf someone refuses, then you can frame that it limits candor and vulnerability. If they still prefer to have it on, then you can simply be less open with them.
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