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> The KDE4 days were rough

Back then whenever I had a chance to try a distro with KDE 4, the Crash Handler window would pop after doing stupidest and simplest things within the desktop. Gnome 3 wasn't any better - it was more stable but departing from desktop metaphor to this mobile-desktop hybrid made me avoid it and pick Xfce instead. Which is shame because KDE4 despite the problems looked really well (and still does); I once said here that it had this "younger sister of Vista's Aero" vibe. It's really cool that they managed to bring Oxygen theme back.

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I also left Kde at the 4.0 time, and for a while was on Mac OS X, but nowadays I've given up on desktop environments - I just use xmonad and dmenu, and a mishmash of apps that serve my needs. I got tired of getting used to new/different affordances every few months/years.
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> I got tired of getting used to new/different affordances every few months/years.

Have those actually meaningfully changed in the last couple of decades of KDE? If so, I haven't noticed.

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Ah but I went to gnome after kde4 happened. I only use gnome and windows if I'm getting paid for it nowadays.
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