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by ThrowawayTestr17 hours ago |
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upvoteby Slothrop9916 hours ago|
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Just pointing out - a lot of snowy areas are very aggressive about plowing (and salting). For most people this is probably like "don't drive tomorrow" and not some need for knobby snow tires.
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upvoteby kjkjadksj5 hours ago|
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Even when the road is dry the rubber compound is a lot softer on winter tires so you get significantly more grip than all season or summer in cold temps when they get hard.
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upvoteby literalAardvark17 hours ago|
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It is.

However the difference between winter and a modern all weather (it's a different class) isn't.

And yes, we're probably terrible drivers.

I do not live in Florida. 45N, continental winters.

I'm never using winter tyres again unless society breaks down and no one shovels the roads anymore.

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upvoteby kjkjadksj5 hours ago|
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There are laws of physics you can’t hand waive away. Winter tires are really more cold temp tires. The rubber formulation is different to allow for grip in the cold and dry (tread pattern for cold and snow). As such a winter tire wears heavily driven in the summer, rubber formulation is just too soft.

For an all season that level of summer wear would be unacceptable. So a different formulation is used to improve summer wear at the cost of the winter low temp performance. You can’t have it both ways, a long wearing summer performance and good sub 40 degree grip.

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upvoteby literalAardvark5 hours ago|
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Please read the studies in this thread.

Modern high quality all weather tyres are excellent in summer and winter.

Except on actual snow, where they're just ok, because of the hybrid sipe patterns, and ice, where they suck exactly as much as everything else except studded tyres (which suck on tarmac instead).

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upvoteby ThrowawayTestr3 hours ago|
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Even after the streets are plowed there's still a bit of snow on the main roads and a lot on the side roads. Maybe you live in a place with really mild winters, but my car would have drifted into a ditch many times this winter if I didn't swap my tires.
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upvoteby literalAardvark1 hours ago|
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No one is saying to drive all year with your summers. Those will glass in winter.
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