Culture shapes our taste. Companies go on multi-decade billion-dollar campaigns to shape our culture. We like certain things because famous actors or athletes endorse them; because hip hop artists rap about them; because influencers talk about them; because Hollywood portrays them a certain way. This extends to all modern aesthetic preferences from architecture to watches to cars to furniture to dating.
I think the argument pg is making is that brand-obsessed cultures are not maximally truth/beauty-seeking and gets really weird. e.g. Japanese Ohaguro, Chinese foot binding, various cranial deformation practices from the Mayans to the Huns, high-heels, ugly (to outside observers) watches.
It's a really thought-provoking essay. But it's too heterodox and "autistic" to share with most of my friends. Socially speaking, it's best to outwardly embrace the current zeitgeist.
There's plenty of art that's celebrated, but also kinda weird and ugly. Is "Vertumnus" by Giuseppe Arcimboldo (1591) also a product of the "brand age"? What about various gargoyles and grotesques on old church buildings?
Some people just like weird art, maybe because they think it reflects their own quirky or rebellious nature. Some of these people have money. I don't see why we need some sort of a cynical theory of a "brand-obsessed culture" at the center of it. How many people do you know who are obsessed with brands? We might have a brand or two we like, typically because we like the way the products look or work. That's about it.
I know some people who like expensive watches. They talk about the design a lot more than they talk about who made it.
Wow that is certainly a look.
Can you reflect on why they think those designs are more beautiful than others?
They don’t possess a universal, objectively valuable beauty that motivates the desire. If they did, fakes would be equally desireable and they are not.
But here - https://spechtandsohne.com/product-category/icon-quartz/
And they are pretty popular with folks who like watches.
Just today I went to a watch repair person because the keeper on my strap broke. He said the only option is to buy the exact strap from the manufacturer.
The strap costs $120.
My watch costs $340 (although I got it on a discount for $220).
This is the most expensive watch I've ever bought. I typically would pay $50 or less (with the exception of one G-Shock that cost $80). I finally decide to buy something "pricey" and the darn thing breaks in less than 2 years - something that never happens with the cheap watches I've bought.
No thanks. I'm not paying $120 for a new strap. I'm getting a cheap watch that will last me over a decade (as most of my watches do).
I had the same experience with fountain pens. Every fountain pen I've paid more than $50 for has been worse than my favorite cheap ones.
If I were to plot quality on the y-axis, and price on the x-axis, I think I'll find a U or V curve, where on the very cheap end things are reliable and last long, and likewise on the very expensive end. But in the middle, you're just paying extra for crap.
Arguably, you could say I'm not paying enough. A $330 watch isn't expensive. I should have paid $3000. A $90 pen isn't expensive. I should have paid $250.
No thanks. When the <$50 products perform as well as the expensive ones, I'm not paying more.
Once one of my favourite writers is really hard to read now.
It feels to me like he is so overconfident now that he thinks he gets it in any topic, even on the ones he has very little understanding of.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Watches/comments/187srga/what_watch...
Clunky AF. The guy wearing this watch edited the OP's article, amongst other things. To any reasonable person the vast majority of these watches look like absolute dogshit. You know what looks good? The watches that these brands make for women!
PG described exactly the intention that goes into the design of these watches, in this very article. It's not what you say it is!
It looks like an Aliexpress Timex.
https://www.iwc.com/gb-en/watches/pilot-watches/iw388106-pil...
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-gb/watch-omega-speedmaster-m...
Since I'm not into luxury watches, a common occurrence is:
Me to a stranger: "Wow, cool watch! Which one is it?"
Stranger: "Random cheap brand I found on Amazon."
If you've never heard of Omega, Rolex, etc, chances are you won't be able to distinguish a cheap watch from an expensive watch. It's just the brand.
(OK, OK, chances are the material is a lot better - scratchproof, etc - but probably still costs less than 10% to make than what they sell for).
Yeah, when you spend half a million dollars on a watch, the sunk-cost fallacy has gotta hit hard.
TFA says this:
> If mechanical watches had only been accurate to a minute a day they couldn't have made the leap from keeping time to displaying wealth.
I don't think it's necessarily about displaying wealth: we could discuss humans (not just women but also men) wearing some kind of jewelry since thousands of years, including poor people who don't do it to display wealth but just because they enjoy the look of it. There was an article about monkeys enjoying the looks of crystals the other day I think.
One example would be people who don't dress nicely and who drive a cheap car and overal look like they just don't care about what others do think, and yet wear a dive watch. There are countless dive watches, be it a cheap no-name one, a perfect chinese replica of a Rolex Submariner (some replicas have most parts that can be exchanged with real Rolexes, which created the entire "frankenwatch" thing: where some parts are from the true brand and others have been swapped by chinese parts) or a real Rolex Submariner or Sea-Dweller costing $10 K to $20 K (for the base models).
Also in an age of alienating technology, something has to be said about a 100% mechanical device that's not connected to anything and doesn't require a battery to work, however imprecisely: it's not just about the beauty of the object when you look at it. It's also the beauty in having something that's not spying on you.
Just like there are people who, for a variety of reason, only ever take out their old Ferrari for a spin at night (when there's no trafic).
I take it you could very probably say: "Most people own fancy mechanical watches and high-end sport cars to flaunt wealth". But you can't generalize to 100% of watch owners and Ferrari owners.