If I have 10 friends and ask them all where they want to eat for dinner and 6 said let’s go to this nice Italian spot and the other 4 said “let’s kill Ralph and eat him”, that still means I have a shitty friend group.
maga is absolutely something to be ashamed of
Can you explain why it's not something to be ashamed of?
Rampant abuse of the legal system to target individuals, despite claiming (without evidence) that that was that the Democrats did against them
Total disregard for the constitution
Threats towards the judiciary
A million other things that I can list - but I'm sure you've heard them all and just don't care, so there's probably not much use in me continuing.
America won’t be “great” until minorities, non Christians and non straight people know their role.
It absolutely has nothing to do with putting america first, it has everything to do with putting trump first. Im afraid you have made the mistake of listening to a politicians words instead of watching his actions. Every word from his mouth is a lie.
> To us living in the US maga stands for...
This is not true. The GOP won the popular vote, centrists see some advantages in MAGA, and even some Democrats are against MAGA without going to the extreme of painting them all as pedophiles and corrupt.
You are in the minority with that opinion.
Or more aptly, you're commenting on the title instead of reading TFA.
MAGA does not mean what you think it means for the people who actually live here.
Witness the abrupt reversal in public opinion on foreign wars in the last month.
He was a vocal proponent of the birther conspiracy theory about Obama
The homophobia? The racism? The infidelity? The conspiracy theories?
Or just because he was a martial artist and actor that had a bunch of low effort memes?
Terry Crews? Porn addict. [2]
Lin Manuel Miranda "blindly asks BIPOC performers to act in a piece detailing historical events benefiting their oppressors." [3]
Henry Cavill undermined the #MeToo movement saying he feared being called a "rapist" if he pursued women. [4]
John Cena buries talent... used his backstage influence to undermine the momentum of new stars (remember The Nexus in 2010, CM Punk etc) [5]
Steve Irwin fed a crocodille while holding his month-old son, putting him in danger. [6]
Dave Grohl? Chronic infidelity. [7]
All these men are way better than me, for sure. But you can see how these arguments against Chuck Norris are a slippery slope:
> The homophobia? The racism? The infidelity? The conspiracy theories?
You're cherry-picking virtues from people aligned with your politics and ignoring the good things your perceived "adversaries" have.
[1] https://www.npr.org/2020/04/30/847315345/officer-clemmons-mi...
[2] https://www.addictioncenter.com/community/terry-crews-pornog...
[3] https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2020/12/9/unpop-opinion-c...
[4] https://culturess.com/2018/07/13/henry-cavill-missed-point-m...
[5] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQr5ZD6fr0g&t=3s
[6] https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-47343688
[7] https://www.gutinstinctmedia.com/latest-articles/a-rockstar-...
Steve Irwin I don't think what he did was a particularly big deal with the kid.
I don't really like celebrities as role models though. They have to have public personas as a matter of course. I would instead try to point to specific behaviors from real people. I also don't think people have to be perfect. But I do think there are some deal breakers that would mean I would never point my kids towards them as a role model. Racism and homophobia are among those things. I think believing that whole classifications of people are lesser is disqualifying.
Just like the parent comment was trying to do with Chuck Norris. (Which was probably way worse than any of these examples)
> Could you give a couple of examples of what you would consider > "good role models for well-adapted men" ?
I'm actually curious.
Supreme court judge, mother of 7, still finds time to go to the gym.
But maybe lets talk about how Amy got called out by The Human Rights Campaign and 185 LGBTQ organizations for her "disturbingly anti-LGBTQ past writings, rhetoric and association with extremist groups." [2]
Or how about when The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights described her record as "fundamentally cruel," arguing she frequently sides with corporations over individuals and shows hostility toward established precedents like the Affordable Care Act.
At least Chuck Norris had no real impact on policy with his bigotry.
[1] https://www.leeboyce.com/truth-the-fitness-life-is-a-relativ...
[2] https://www.hrc.org/press-releases/the-human-rights-campaign...
[3] https://civilrights.org/resource/oppose-the-confirmation-of-...
Sure, there are people that hate her. Her own patron, our Dear Leader, probably hates her when she rules against his interests. All the more reason to respect her.
Just out of curiosity, could you think of one man that could also be a role model for men and women?
Of course, "real men" can be just the opposite, depending on who you ask. So, it's really a subjective issue.
I don't think every man should be like that, but I also don't think any of those qualities are bad. In fact, I think they're pretty admirable.
Do you have issues with the fact that some men conform to that type?
Being able to provide for someone is an admirable quality, man or woman
Same for being able to protect someone.
I don't think being emotionally restrained is a good thing - and I say this as someone who was raised to be emotionally restrained. I've had to specifically work as an adult to be less emotionally restrained. I think there's a very wide gap between being emotionally restrained and letting emotions rule over you.