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Iran is fighting for survival, Israel and the US are fighting by choice.

They attacked Iran not the other way round. US bases, even if also used by UK which aides US it their war, are legitimate targets.

US imperialism is the greatest threat to the world.

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The IRGC is fighting for survival, most Iranian want them gone, and Iran will be better as a whole if the IRGC is all dead. Don't try to conflate the government with the country, they don't always align.
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This is simply not true. I'm Iranian and I wish it were but IRGC has more support than you think. There is at least 30-40% of the population who support it and within those, more than half will gladly die for the regime.

My home country has more than 90M people and 40% of that equates for millions of supporters.

From the outside, you are only hearing the diaspora talking points, which don't realistically represent Iran. Many of them have grievances with the regime, or have been exiled after the Shah.

Iran is a complex country and it's hard for outsiders to grasp it, mainly because the censorship happening on both sides.

I personally think this war was a major mistake, no Iranian is going to cheer for US or Israel after watching their children being killed by them. The west was doing a good job exporting liberal ideas to Iran slowly over the past 3 decades. Some of those were starting to drip into the country, but this war undid all that effort.

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If anything, the attack on Iran has increased their support.

US and Israel don't give two fucks for the people of Iran. If they did they wouldn't have been under such crippling sanctions.

Irani people want to control their own destiny, not as a vassal of US-Israel backed power.

Iran's best bet I think is to negotiate with the IRGC to earn reforms. I suspect that if IRGC doesn't feel so threatened they might even get them.

There's a lot of commentary here along the lines that Iran is now a threat to Europe. Yes the capability might exist but it is not in Iran's interest and have never shown such interest or ambition. India certainly has missiles that can reach parts of Europe, capability does not signal intent.

US and UK have screwed the relation up by organising coup, scuttling democratic processes, downing domestic passenger jet without apology, setting Saddam Hussein and his chemical weapons at them and the economically ravaging them with sanctions.

As for nukes, with Israel and undeclared nuclear power right next door, it's a very reasonable ask for any country that wants to control its own destiny. In fact had it had one, the current conflict would not have happened.

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There is at least 30-40% of the population who support it and within those, more than half will gladly die for the regime.

Sobering, and (speaking as an American) all too familiar here at home.

Cults suck.

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Unless you're talking about the US military you're wrong here. MAGA is not willing to sacrifice anything. It's a bully mindset and bullies take, they don't give.
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MAGA is not willing to sacrifice anything.

They're willing to sacrifice the rest of us, just like the mullahs. As long as other people are hurting more, MAGA is happy to sacrifice whatever is asked of them.

It's a literal cult. To understand that, all you have to do is imagine a Biden, an Obama, or a Harris saying and doing the things Trump has said and done in the last 30 days alone. "Some of you may die, and gas prices may go up for a while, but that's a chance I'm willing to take. Oh, also, Imma need 'bout $200 billion, kthx."

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Most Iranians do not want the IRGC gone, that's US/Israeli propaganda. Thousands of people have been marching in support of the IRGC. Common sense would also tell you that Iranians aren't going to support the people bombing their schools.
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It is impossible to know how may Iranians want the IRGC gone. But bombing schools (and bombings in general) will definitely increase the support for it.
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You are absolutely deluded if you think the removal of the IRGC will result in any improvement in the situation of the Iranian people. The US and Israel want to bomb he place into a lawless wasteland, even if a secular democracy was to arise it would make no difference.
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It’s trivial for either the US or Israel to do that with one phone call (completely destroy infrastructure on kharg island and the gas fields, this yields an Iranian failed state). The fact it hasn’t happened proves you wrong.
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> Iran will be better as a whole if the IRGC is all dead

Which is an impossibility. We're talking about a military force of more than a million religiously fervent men that have martyrdom as a core tenet of their religion. They are not going anywhere, and assasinating their leaders and bombing their bases will not make them easier to enforce anything on.

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Many people that protested against the government in January are now marching in support of the Islamic Republic and demand that the imperialists are punished. Most of them have protested for economic reasons, they don't want to see their country destroyed and their children murdered by bombs.

Iran is more united than ever because of the imperialist war. That is what you get when you turn state leaders into martyrs.

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That sounds made up. Marches largely stopped after bombings, no one marches for IRGC - not even supporters.

And there is no way for anyone to know what Iranians actually think now. No one does the polls there now.

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There is massive video evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TOcnVe86Vo

There are massive protests in favor of the Republic every day. You can not deny the evidence.

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> no one marches for IRGC - not even supporters

IRGC has a lot of support. We tend to think of educated Iranians from abroad. But they have their share of religious nutters.

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> They attacked Iran not the other way round.

This whole war is a continuation of the Oct 7 attack on Israel by Iran's proxies. It's been revealed recently that Israel took the decision to assassinate the leader of Iran soon after Oct 7 in retaliation. It just took a few years to find the opportunity to do so.

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Iranian kids have been chanting death to Israel and death to USA for 47 years now. They’ve been waiting for this.
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Well, if US takes down their democracy and downs their domestic passenger jets, fight a proxy war with chemical weapons through Saddam Hussein that alone kills 20~30 thousand, no country is going to respond to that with flowers in their hair.

In Iran's defence, in spite of being attacked repeatedly with chemical weapons, not once have they retaliated with chemical weapons. This is in line with their beliefs which was formalized into a fatwa by the late Khamenei against nuclear weapons.

I would call that taking a pretty principled stand at a time when it would have been very tempting to redefine them.

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Have you ever been in Iran? Do you know any Iranians and have you talked to them recently?

Do you know what Khomeini did to his fellow leftist who toppled the Shah?

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No. But many that I know have, they all had a lovely lovely time and to this day reminisce fondly about the hospitality they received from the people, from the officials. As complete strangers they were invited into their homes to share dinner with family, with much post dinner merriment and singing and dancing. Note, my people were complete strangers to them, foreigners too. Some of my people were young men, they giggle and blush telling stories they were approached openly by women, no burqa in sight. These people still try to stay in occasional touch to this day.

Yes (many).

Yes. Also what US planted Shah's SAVAK did to his political opponents.

So what is the point you are making, if any at all.

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Funnily enough, they are still a bit salty about the US and UK overthrowing their government in 1953, because that government started asking questions about how much oil the UK was stealing.
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There’s only so many decades you can say “death to America, death to Israel” and fund proxies against them until they say enough is enough and deal with the baiting once and for all.
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Maybe we should look at why Iranians chant this?

And those "proxies" are not "against" America or Israel - they exist solely as resistance groups that counter Israeli aggression, ethic cleansing, land theft etc. You know, like Israel is doing right now in their stated aim of annexing South Lebanon, after displacing over a million people from their homes. Without Israeli aggression and land theft, these resistance groups wouldn't exist.

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> those "proxies" are not "against" America or Israel - they exist solely as resistance groups that counter Israeli aggression, ethic cleansing, land theft etc.

They explicitly call for the destruction of Israel.

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A lot of people think the world would be better off without the violent Israeli regime and their influence.
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Why would that be?
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Yeah we should meet them half way
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Or maybe you could ask yourself why people chant this. Maybe people don't fancy your mass murder of their Palestinian brothers and sisters. Maybe Iran didn't appreciate the US supporting Saddam Hussein to fight a war against Iran where he used chemical weapons against the population.

The might be a reason the whole region hates Israel and the US. Just saying.

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Being empathetic to someone who wants to kill you does not make you safer. How ridiculous.
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Or maybe you could ask yourself why most of the rest of the region allows the US to have military bases on their soil, and why they are so concerned about protecting themselves against Iran.

The "whole region" fears Iran more than they hate the US, judged by their behavior.

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9/11 happened because US imperialism. The current regime is in power because of US imperialism, as them and the Brits doing the coup in the 50s.
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The people in the region cheer when they see Iranian missiles hit US bases.

It is the Saudis and the other monarchists and oligarchs that have decided to sell out their countries to the US and Israel. They fear their own people more than anything else.

Iran is the only country in the region who has supported the Palestinians. Everyone else has looked the other way. Iran has not invaded any other country. It is Israel that keep the region in a constant state of war.

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Iran was attacked. Israel and the US are the threat, Iran is just practicing very common sense self-defense.
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Are you implying other countries have to join in?

Iran is only a threat because the US and Israel decided it was time to murder some Iranians.

The US and Israel are more of a threat to the entire world.

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How convenient for Trump that now all Europe now has a pretext to send the help they were asked for.
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The whole point of that noise is to put NATO + Japanese military in the Straits of Hormuz so that Israel and the US can continue to attack Iran with impunity. Any effort by Iran to shut the Straits in response to further attacks will hit some "innocent" party and drag them into the conflict.

It's basically bait for WW3, and luckily so far the EU particularly are not biting.

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When was the last time the NATO navy do anything anyway? They’d just be sitting ducks and probably not even know which directions to point what pointless weapons they have.
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