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Based on the post I would guess it hasn't been live long and gone through a ton of battle testing.

I wish her luck though, things get much murkier as you start stacking more intents and it is no longer just a chatbot that funnels to text to speech.

People also assume "AI" is a miracle worker now so they will be pissed when they say "Yeah just email me at charlezmcnaughton@gmail.com" and it spells it completely wrong. Like there is no reality where a transcriber is going to reliably transcribe most emails correctly, so for shit where it is vital to be 100% accurate (email, name, etc.) you have a battle on your hands.

side: I found Anthropic to be prohibitively slow for live voice chat. I was getting response times in the 1-2s range which when combined with the other parts of generating a response led to 2.5s+ silent periods before responding. Groq is insanely fast if you want pure performance from an LLM. Like <200ms to complete a response.

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It also ignores easily available solutions that could have been deployed prior to AI

For example, even if it shows a boost of $100,000 per month in revenue. It could likely have been achieved with a shared virtual assistant / receptionist for about $200-1000 per month (depending on exactly call volumes).

So really, the revenue was already lost and going forward you’re just deciding to capture it. You've created a more complicated mouse trap than what was already available to you. The difference is saving a couple hundred dollars of labor less whatever your AI/tech costs are. I’d still go the human route because it’s more future proof and if this is a luxury service, human service is always going to feel more luxurious.

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Given the article states

> He’s under the hood all day. The phone rings, he can’t answer, the customer hangs up and calls someone else

the mechanic is already very busy in the first place so unless he plans on expanding shop the whole thing is a waste of time

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This is such an important point. My plumber that we always call is extremely busy and usually doesn't have availability for at least a week. He is a one man shop and prefers it that way. You call his phone, leave a voicemail and he calls you back whenever he is able to. I asked him if he wants to get more business by automating his incoming calls and he said "not really, I am already very busy and have enough business. I don't need these tools".

So we cannot always assume that the business owner (especially the solo mom and pops) wants more business. Good ones are already very busy.

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This seems to be true with every trade shop in my area. HVAC, plumbing, electrical, landscaping, appliance repair, and so on: Nobody picks up the phone, and when you do get someone, they don't seem to be very interested in your job unless it sounds like big money to them. Everyone already apparently has as much work as they want, and if you're a small fish you're out of luck.
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Electrician here. I had zero unemployment time between my current job and the last. Sent ~5 applications, had two interviews. Current employer called me in the afternoon offering me a job, after interviewing the same morning.

Y'all are in the wrong business :D

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Median electrician in the USA makes ~$60k:

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/construction-and-extraction/electric...

Median software devs make over double that, ~$130k:

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/...

The only way to make good money in the trades is to own a business, something not everyone can do (let alone be successful at).

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That's wild. Plumbing especially seems like a field where if you need a plumber you need them right now, not a week from now.

I guess as a plumber having enough of the type of jobs that can wait a week that you can turn away the urgent calls might be one of those feature-not-a-bug type situations.

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It depends. If you need a faucet changed out with this new fancy one, or if you want to replace a toilet with a new one using less GPF, or any other kind of update/remodel.

Not every job a plumber does is an emergency situation. I used a plumber to help me setup a backyard project to set up a portable propane tankless gas water heater. I took a look at buying at the parts and pieces I would need, but they needed special tools that would only be used once if I were to buy them. Instead, I had the plumber do it for me with all of the necessary parts/pieces on the truck plus the tools to do it. It cost me less than it would have to buy everything. Now, I just need a cold water feed, and I have a portable hot/cold running system.

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Exactly. For example, we replaced a couple of toilets and wasn't that urgent. So we called him and he gave us an appointment after a week.
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You can break it down by, new construction, planned renovations/improvements, and emergency repairs.

Not everyone works all three or wants to do more than one of these groups. There’s different levels of demand, pay, competition at each.

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> you need them right now

You can shut the entire network off, shower/poop at neighbours places or work, laundry at the local self-laundry shop and brush you teeth with a bootle of water. Inconvenient sure, but it would as much problematic to be denied electricity for a long time: lights off, fridge off, no heating, boiler off… there’s alternatives but the usual way for us is to share a long electric cord by an open window… so obligatory work-and-stay-at-home if you’re lucky to have an appropriate activity.

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Emerg. solution.

Get a 5 gallon bucket with lid. Put garbage bag inside. Put toilet seat from broken toilet on it.

Use it, remove refuse if needed, put lid on.

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I love it! My main (and only) device is a dry toilet so a plastic bag shortage would be a bigger problem. I guess we’ll emerge with origami.

https://www.kildwick.com/en/fancyloo-divert

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Now that is an expensive poop bucket!

I love the design of it though, I'd never even though about diverting flow toilets, but this design is so simple and elegant.

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My after-thought odour diversion isn’t that simple and elegant though. I recommend the fan-included (cheaper) kit : https://www.kildwick.com/en/easyloo-diy-kit-fan-12v
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There's emergency plumber companies out there you could call
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I think that’s wrong for a couple reasons. I think author doesn’t fully understand the problem or doesn’t explain it well leading to this assumption.

He wouldn’t care to get these extra jobs if he’s full, so why do this to begin with. He could however hire another mechanic if he books more jobs and grow his business to one of shop owner instead of mechanic (no idea if this is his motivation or not).

It’s likely he’s not actually under the hood all day but If phone rings twice a day and it just happens to be he’s under the hood at those times, he misses the call and it’s like he’s under the hood all day. It doesn’t mean he has no capacity, it just means he’s missing some calls throughout the day.

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Perhaps it's a timing issue? Perhaps he would have time for more work but the calls cluster when he's busy?
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That’s what I was trying to say. Inbound calls always seem to come at inconvenient times.
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I tried getting some work quotes not long ago and was surprised by how many local shops still don't have: (1) website that takes info and emails/calls back, (2) voicemail, or (3) having one or both of those and didn't call back all week. I suspected they had all the business they can handle. I did get a call back later in the week from one that said as much.
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Why would a car repair shop need a website for? All I care about is the phone number, with the hope that someone will pick it up. IDK about the world, but in Poland every single mechanic I know has no downtime at all. The better ones have queues measured in weeks or months for simple repairs. They don't care about extra business, the business will find them anyway.
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You can use web form to streamline the reservations or fill in drop outs.

It is not always about getting more customers.

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Why don't the mechanics increase their price?
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They do.

I paid quite a lot for hauling and fixing alternator.

Same with basic house maintenance prices are through the roof.

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That generates more supply (mechanics) not less demand (volume of broken cars). Sometimes having excess demand is ideal to keep the market balanced in your favor.
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Could he not just increase the price until the number of calls matches the time he has?

I know it's not that simple, but my gut says theres value to at least hearing out the people taking action to call you. Especially if that's automated and low cost to you.

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I needed to replace my car's windshield in a hurry while on an extended trip. I called around to see who might have one in stock that could do a rush order. There was one place that had an automated voice system, and I hung up because it kept redirecting the conversation to get me to hand over more information than necessary to answer my question.

If I were already an existing customer and just wanted to schedule an oil change, it'd be fine, though I'd probably just schedule on the website anyway. I'm really only going to call in if I have an unusual circumstance and actually need to speak with someone.

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Automated voice systems that try to sound human but are in fact purely scripted are insanely annoying. E.g. "I think you said 'windshield', is that correct? ... Got it, thanks!"

If you only have 4 options, just give me the old school list of voice options and I'll press 1 through 4, in less time, and being only moderately annoyed.

But a knowledgeable AI system as described in the article - that knows what it knows and tells you when it doesn't - could work great. If it had access to inventory and calendar, it might have worked for you. The question is whether the implementation lives up to the high expectations set by the articles.

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Me too, but I wonder whether we're in the minority here. I'm sure there must be plenty of people who just call places to get information easily found via the web, or there wouldn't be so many automated phone systems that explain how to get information via their website.
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I routinely call businesses instead of using their websites, but I do this to talk to a person instead of a machine.
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Would you call a business to ask a question that's answered on their website?
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Absolutely, routinely.

Often the relevant information is a pain to find on a website, but even if it isn't, the people who answer the phone often have important context like "Usually we do offer that recently but one of our suppliers..." or "We can do that, but maybe instead..." or "Oh the website isn't updated with..."

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I know someone who works on the voice response system for $LARGEBANK. She says that more than 95% of calls are just to find out a checking account balance.
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That's fine, and there's no need for AI pretending to be a human, or to ask me to talk to a computer as if it is a human. Routine decision trees work really well here.

In fact, decision trees are nice because they tell your more or less up front what they're capable of.

What really sucks (AI or decision tree, either way) is when they don't let you easily speak with someone.

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I'd argue a well designed AI assistant would be considerably better than a decision tree for that use case. Decision trees are slow because you normally need to wait through several options before getting to the one you're interested in. (Though sure, perhaps not if your call is literally for the most common thing.) But with an AI you could jump straight to what you're interested in.

"Hi, I'm the LargeBank AI Assistant. How can I help you?" "I'd like to know the balance of my checking account."

And then authenticate and get the balance as usual. Simpler and faster. Agreed that it becomes a problem if it's seen as a replacement for human agents though. In an ideal world it would actually free up the human agents for when they're actually needed. In reality it'll probably be some of each.

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I'd counter with the following:

por espanol marque beep

if you have a quest beep

for beep

beep*beep*beep*beepbeep*

The account balance for account ending in NNNN is: $375.86

I shouldn't have to navigate a conversation in a situation where muscle memory will take me through the phone system decision tree in seconds.

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I believe that. Probably 95% of my support calls to online shops are about order status (aka: the website shows "in preparation" for a week already, I need to talk to a real person).
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