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They already removed the files when the lawsuit was filed.

Obviously, they're not paying the $322 million. The amount doesn't matter because they're not paying anything. What it does enable is seizing their domain names and any other resources that are hosted by companies in the US jurisdiction.

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Aren't they widely believed to be Russian? They've been running for long enough that they're almost certainly in a non-extradition jurisdiction and know to stay there.
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Russia after Putins fall will do everything to please other countries, to get back to good terms (for sanctions, trade, debt markets, selling oil) and all people in Russia betting on not being extradited will have a rude awakening.
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Please which countries, though? China? The EU? The US? All of them have conflicting interests and you can't please all three.
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If you're bad at governing you can't please all three.
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Please do tell us of that mythical leader who is so good at governing that no other country has ever had a grievance with them?
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Well I didn’t exactly make some kind of claim of “no grievance ever,” I’m just saying that it’s not that hard to find countries that have good relationships with the US, China, and EU all at once.

Example: most member states within the RCEP trade agreement (e.g., Australia)

India

Mexico, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Peru.

Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, and Turkey all deliberately hedge relations between blocs.

Japan and South Korea are heavily economically intertwined (not conflict-free obviously)

Singapore

South Africa, Kenya, Nigeria, Egypt

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Bold claims with no backing. Always bet on russian antagonism.
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Or apathy. The combo is extremely spicy.
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I'm sure this time it won't turn into a imperialistic dictatorship.
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Many of them.

Way things are going, I suspect that many of people who are wanted by the American government will find friendly arms in China and Europe.

(Perhaps even there I'm optimistic about Russia wanting to normalise relations? Or existing?)

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I don't think with the EU, the EU bases its identity on rules for the better or worse.
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Sure, but also the EU is comparably as weak over its member states as the US Federal government was over American states in the Articles of Confederation era. This is how Hungary was able to paralyse the collective response against Russia.
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Nevertheless, extraditions based on international mandates are usually respected (terms and conditions may apply, see Greece or Italy). Wanted people often go to Serbia nowadays, to give a successful example.
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Indeed. But I did write "will find friendly arms in China and Europe", and Greece, Italy, and indeed Serbia, are in Europe.

The whole continent != nation thing is clearer with the EU != Europe (due to the EU not even being a nation yet) than with the American nation != The Americas.

Even then, don't underestimate rules-lawyering of laws: I wish to suggest that the USA is going down the path of "rogue state", and that extradition treaties may have clauses (either explicitly in treaty text* or implicitly via the European Convention on Human Rights) protecting individuals from the risk of a death penalty, which may end up getting invoked due to the US having the death penalty.

* https://eur-lex.europa.eu/EN/legal-content/summary/agreement... and https://www.congress.gov/treaty-document/109th-congress/14/d...

  Article 13 (``Capital punishment'') provides that when an offense for which extradition is sought is punishable by death under the laws in the requesting State but not under the laws in the requested State, the requested State may grant extradition on condition that the death penalty shall not be imposed or, if for procedural reasons such condition cannot be complied with by the requesting State, on condition that if imposed the death penalty shall not be carried out.
If there's a loss of trust that the US will honour its obligations, and in other cases besides extradition this has already happened, what then?
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Assuming "Russia" cares to and can find out who is running Anna.
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> Russia after Putins fall will do everything to please other countries, to get back to good terms

This is pretty obviously not true? Russia's not going to try to please the us or most European countries, and many fugitives in Russia only angered those countries.

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Russians will get extradited right after French citizens in France or Lebanese in Lebanon.

It's honestly astonishing the US is cucked enough to betray their own citizens up for trial by foreign court. Plenty of places won't do that.

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Perhaps US may extradite some ordinary US citizens, but for example when some member of the US military kills in another country someone by driving drunk, USA will immediately smuggle him from that country, so that he will not stand trial in a foreign court for his crime.
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And we would be stupid to give them as access to cheese afterward. They had that chance and blew it.

There is unlikely to be any thaw within our lifetimes.

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That's not how politics necessarily works. Russia oil and already existing infrastructure into Europe means that Europe has huge incentives to continue trading eventually.

That's also better than Russia focusing delivering their resources to China for good.

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There's unlikely to be any thaw within Putin's lifetime. Putin is 73. What happens after that? Opportunity to be a clean slate.

Before the war, upper-class Russians had it good. Freedom of movement to the West. Russian money was popular in Europe, now it's got a Chernobyl toxic glow to it. It wouldn't be so bad to go back to 2010 Russia before Putin threw all of that away on territorial expansion and irridentism.

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Putin is a Russian moderate. Anyone who pays attention to Russian politics prays for his good health and long life.
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Difficult to imagine a less moderate policy than starting a war which gets hundreds of thousands of Russians killed. Starting a nuclear war?
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Losing hundreds of thousands in war vs hundreds of thousands (or more) in labour camps.

Putting a bullet in your skull for accessing a blocked internet resource vs just blocking the resource or paying a fine.

Honestly I can name many things that can be different.

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Well for starters he might try and conquer Greenland.
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The nuclear war is the immoderate Russians.
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Except for the fact that the US started this war with the 2014 coup and the progressive arming of Ukraine.
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The main opposition party in Russia is the Communist party. Their leader was one of the first to call for a general mobilisation.
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Where can I learn more?
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Nothing to learn about, really.

We've got army block, FSB block, technocrats, bureaucrats and oligarchs. The usual (more or less) story.

The real problem is - we don't have system that scales horizontally. So when Putin goes people will have to deal with the vertical system he created for himself.

The problem here is this "for himself" part.

For this system to work you will have to be a new Putin (at least for some time) and for this you will have to enforce your decisions and shape your new system. Top to bottom.

Best thing that can happen to Russian (realistically) is that the power will be given to technocrats.

They are not neccesarily more liberal, but they have real education, they do understand a thing or to about economics, open borders, sharing of knowledge etc.

They won't be able to quickly change Russia, but given some time they can reshape it step by step.

Alas - we have FSB and Army blocks, high level of corruption and millions of people who see people like Putin as the best choice. They don't need progress and responsibility. They need their empire back even if they are just peasants with serfdom included.

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That's the funny thing of course. I don't understand who this show really is for
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I imagine the record companies and shareholders.

It would look bad if they did nothing, so a few 100k on legal theatre is worth it for them. Now they can say it's the US courts that are powerless.

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Probably the people involved getting paid hefty fees for the whole thing.
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Slightly OT: How is it possible that the operators are unidentified? Surely someone must own the domain and pay upkeep for that? Wouldn't that expose at least one of them?
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Yes your honor, we've identified one Big Bird of 123 Sesame St as being affiliated with the operators of the site based on the registration data.

The only reason you have to tell the truth is if you want to reduce the risk of arbitrarily losing control of the domain, such as having a chance to contest any abuse reports that might be filed against you.

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It’s well established if the US wants to they can find them and crypto can be traced.

Same question though how are they paying for the domain, assuming this is on the plaintiff to trace

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What does "finding them" even means in this context? There are many hacker organizations located in Russia that are much worse than Anna's Archive. From my understanding those also operate websites / platforms to offer services.
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Well clearly that’s false? Not all crypto transactions are traceable for example. And since they haven’t found them, that seems to disprove your statement doesn’t it?
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This is presumably the real target of the lawsuit: the domain operators. There will likely be injunctions taking down the domains.
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Some of the Anna domains have been taken down a few weeks ago.
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Several domains previously used by Anna have been lost.

I assume that they may have been seized as a consequence of this trial.

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there are ways to buy domains using crypto and being completely anonymous.
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ultimately it will depend on their opsec. i do think it shows that opsec strategies and tech can have a use case that is not morally bad (at least not in a straightforward way). so the good research done in this field is actually justified
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"the operators of the site remain unidentified." I laughed at this quite a bit.
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