> Presumably there's a further rugpull to come.
replyHow would that be? They are already charging as much as the underlying providers. They can hardly expect to have any customers if they are charging more.
Enterprise sales will be the answer. Microsoft will have some story that convinces an exec eight levels up the org chart from the normal users that this is an essential product they need to overpay for. Given their existing relationshipsand immense sales team they'll probably have success.
replyThat story is data governance. Corporate already have a data-agreement with MS, storing all their data there. Github copilot is covered by that, while a individual agreement with e.g. anthropic needs lawers involved.
replyExactly this. I can't count the number of enterprises with their whole stack inside of Microsoft's ecosystem.
replyMany of these enterprises are grid-locked with the IT department and AI usage.
It’s precisely this, and, to be fair, it’s a rational approach given a Data Security Exhibit starts at 6 weeks and can hit 6 months to complete. That being said, I work with regulated data, so YMMV.
replyBut if the org already has an agreement with Anthropic (and many do) then why pay GitHub…
replyPlus if you're in government you have procurement to deal with. You already have an Enterprise deal with Microsoft so you don't have to go through any of that rigmarole.
replyCan confirm, this is the situation.
replyMicrosoft is simply the default answer for most large corporations. Getting access to some Microsoft subscription is very easy, because of the existing framework agreements, Microsoft providing any and all compliance slopuments needed and already being pre-cleared for corporate data etc. Meanwhile trying to use another provider (e.g. Anthropic) would be a one year endeavor, minimum.
replyWe also pay $300/month for Azure Desktop VMs.
replyWe are paying for tens of thousands of those machines, although everyone knows they are stupidly expensive and incredibly slow.
They list the price 900% higher and give a 90% discount to enterprises who also use teams, outlook, office or even windows if they're desperate. Then that becomes a deal so good that enterprises can't afford not to take it!
replyI'm already on Pro. Why should I keep it?
replye.g. if on an annual plan? 0x will be gone, but there are okay 1x and 0.3x models left. I am pretty much curious how the early may test invoicing will look like. current setup of tools etc. is way too chatty eats up 1+M token per PRU easily. not sure how much is cached.
replyI had some 3x request that I did the math for fun on long running task, and at API price it would have been ~$260 that the in/out and cache. All that for $0.12.
replyOnly reason to keep it is if you like their UX and auto-complete. Everything else is on pay per use and if you don't use all of it (good luck with the 5 hour and week caps) you have just paid more for the auto-complete
replyThe deal is really pretty much garbage now and I believe that is the intent.
I use auto-complete mostly, so I'm somewhat relieved. When I do need to use the agent, I don't think I will use all of the tokens.
reply$10 a month for auto-complete on a good UX is good value IMHO.
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replyprivate repos
replyCan you elaborate please? I still clone my private repos and work on them using OpenRouter Credits and OpenCode (or Copilot itself: It supports OpenRouter BYOK). No?
replyCopilot pro, not github pro
replyAlso you can have private repos on GitHub Free.
replyOpenRouter charges a 5% (?) fee for buying credits.
replyYeah, but you get the benefit of using any model of your choice.
replyA very reasonable and fair markup that is clear and well articulated and not changing (at least so far) on a whim.
replyI think 5% is pretty solid, I am an OpenRouter user myself. Where I got screwed was enabling search on my requests, that jumped up my consumption a lot!
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