Dojo is such an obvious thing, but its such an obvious thing that there are dozens of software trying to call themselves that.

You just don't have to think about it too hard:

jjplace/jjhub/codetown, whatever. Doesn't matter.

Names don't matter that much for brands. Names just have to be simple enough to remember (ideally two syllables or less). What the heck does Nike mean, for example? Boeing is just someone's name. Microsoft is just two words smashed together. A brand's name literally doesn't matter.

you don't have to name your forge after the VCS it's based off of.

JujutsuJunction (Ju³), obviously.

JitHub.

("Please don't sue us.")

jub

> managing an on-prem instance is (literally) a full time job.

Hosting a Docker container is a full-time job? I have worked at several employers self-hosting their own instances without issues or a lot of effort. Many FOSS projects do, that definitely do not have a full-time guy for that. What are you talking about?

yeah that is true. i did manage a gitlab instance for ~100 developers (between 2019 and 2022) and yeah performance was shit. not gonna lie, i blame ruby for that.

if you accept the performance hit, it's great quality software though.

however, a fairly large company with 100-120 users (developers, devops engineers, QAs etc) and ~600 gitlab runners ran happily on a 8 core / 64gb virtual machine (hosted on a local vmware cluster).

so it is (was?) also fairly cheap.

Interesting project, thanx.

Also nice language evolutions: "socialize their changes to projects", "lo-fi approach" :)

I say this as someone who actually ran mailservers for about 25 years, who can telnet to port 25 and type SMTP to send an email, and who is hugely found of plaintext: I'd rather quit coding than move to that workflow. I loathe every bit of the pipeline of getting a clean patch from machine A to machine B, where I control at most one of them, and having it come out the other side with the same SHA256 digest. I don't look down on people who prefer it: to each their own! But I'll never in a million years understand it. Say what you will about the GitHub-style PR process, and there's plenty to say about it!, but there's a reason that devs outside LKML and the *BSD mailing lists pretty much immediately leapt onto GitHub the moment it became widely known. It was a revelation.

At least as far as I can tell, Gitlab seems to be used a lot more than the other two. I don't think I've ever gone to a page for a SourceForge project that was created after maybe 2012 or so, and although it's possible I've looked at a project on Codeberg or Forgejo, I can't think of a single one off the top of my head. Meanwhile, I've run into projects on Gitlab (either gitlab.com itself or a self-hosted version) at multiple employers and various Linux codebases and packages (Plasma and Gnome desktop environments and other various windowing-related software, Arch Linux package sources, etc.).

I guess it's possible that my experience is wildly different than others, but if we're talking about volume of usage today rather than individual preferences, it's kind of shocking for me that someone wouldn't think to reference Gitlab at all in the list of potential successors, let alone not mention it literally first.

Gitlab's interface makes me want to cry every time I have to use it. I would not recommend it to someone who misses classic GitHub. Codeberg/Forgejo/Gitea would be a much better match.

Doh, I completely forgot about GitLab. OK so that's 3 services. I'm only counting hosted services that aim at serving all comers and providing an entire platform similar to GitHub. Individual disconnected instances, while useful, aren't a replacement for the social aspect of GitHub.

Oh, I'd forgotten about GitLab and Bitbucket. How is Bitbucket doing these days?

I am pretty sure they were talking about sourcehut...