Ignoring the fact that it's absolutely unhinged and bonkers to include that in the first place, I don't even understand how they could possibly ever get any information about that. Are they using LLMs to generate these policies without review? Or are there really lawyers out there who thought this was pertinent and important to include?
replyAny car that can record audio in the cabin could have information about your sexual activity. Could also argue it based on location data.
replySome laws require discussing very specific lists of categories of information they might have. I'm guessing this is a completionist CYA lawyer accounting for this.
I was thinking all it takes is an IMU to tell if the car is a rockin'
reply150lbs on each front seat at 8pm, 300lbs on one rear seat at 2am, they gotcha like Kalanick & the Uber one night standers
replyhttps://web.archive.org/web/20140827195715/https://blog.uber...
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replyOr malicious compliance by a true friend to privacy.
replyThey’re just including everything to be clear that you have no privacy in this agreement, so they don’t have to think about it too much when they realize there’s something more they can collect.
replyWell, there's the old cliche of someone being conceived in the back seat of their grandparent's Chevy... so a little extra DSP analysis with the seat occupancy sensors? :-)
replyNow I want a hacker competition - I’m seeing utilizing the microphone, TPS, roll sensors, seat occupancy/airbag sensors …
replyLegal wiggle room in case the sleepy eyes cam catches some action? Disclaimer: no idea how the tired driver sensors work.
replyBut that safety functionality doesn't require storing or transmitting the footage ...
replyYou’re thinking like a consumer and not a business who could make money by transmitting that footage and using it for other purposes!
replyApparently there are cases of passenger's jaw closing on the driver's protrusion on crash, causing injuries
replyJust wait until genome sequencing becomes cheap enough...
replyI wonder how Slate ( https://slate.auto ) will rate when production begins? I suspect poorly as it's a Bezos property.
replyIf it doesn’t get a perfect score then it was overbuilt and maybe will be underpriced counting on the sale of customer data
replyMain reason why I will never buy an EV, and keep driving my Internet-free Honda until it dies, which will likely be after me.
replynothing about this has anything to do with EVs
replyI think the GP was talking about the fact it is hard to find an EV that is bundled with a lot of invasive software.
replyThere's another post on this article asking for an EV that doesn't: "need internet connectivity via wifi/esim at all? I'm looking for something really simple. A chassis, four wheels, an engine, airbags. Basically my current ICE car, just electric."
I'm hoping that they get a lot of good suggestions, but I'm not holding my breath.
There are a number of basic EVs that have no more telemetry than the equivalent ICEV.
replySomeone with the requirements you outline is not in the market for any new car, regardless of powertrain.
What are these on the us market?
replyThe boring ones. Things like Bolt, Niro, Equinox, Lightning, etc. Not every EV is like Tesla.
replyhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47865868
reply^^ Not EV, but... :)
EVs and luxury cars tend to have more fancy features that enable these issues than ice or hybrid cars. That’s changing as more advanced tech filters down.
replyThis is the part that's seriously sucks. We need greener alternatives (current state of things especially highlighting that) and car dependency has crushed us, so instead of just giving us the basic EV most of us want, they've taken the capitalistic approach of giving us massive luxury cars with premium features often cloud-tied, that happen to also be EVs.
replyYou can count the exceptions to this on one hand.