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Carplay isn't about entertainment for me. It's just a vastly superior and convenient way to view the same map you can see on your iPhone.
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I have a beater subie (2018). It has CarPlay (fairly basic variant). It also has very few touchscreens, which I like.

I could easily afford better, but have little interest in doing so. It’s low miles, paid for, handles well in the snow, and is in decent shape. A car gets me from Point A to Point B, and I want it to do so reliably and safely. I couldn’t care any less, what people think of me. Life’s too short.

I also write iOS apps; ones that make a lot of use of navigation stuff.

I like being able to use my app to determine a destination, plug it into CarPlay, and immediately get a map to where I want. Point A, meet Point B.

I’m sure that some of the systems fancier cars use, may be fine for this kind of thing, but CarPlay does it very smoothly.

I’m with the author. No CarPlay, no sale.

I really don’t think any manufacturer is concerned about what I think, though. There’s a lot of fish in the sea.

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That’s the great thing about CarPlay it makes the usually junk infotainment system in cars (especially older ones) irrelevant, so they still seem modern.

For a budget car, I’d be perfectly happy if they had a screen for CarPlay/Android Auto that didn’t do anything else if a phone wasn’t connected. I think this makes a lot of sense as a cost cutting measure. Maybe it would just be used for the mandated backup camera.

I also love it for rental cars. I can get in any rental, and instead of having to learn my way around or figure out a Garmin add-on, CarPlay can make the navigation and music instantly familiar with all the data I need.

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I’m not a big fan of the dumbed down interface. Using the Music app on CarPlay is frustrating. I prefer operating the music app on my phone with a phone mount. Same goes for navigation apps. Finding a restaurant with pictures and reviews is so much faster on my phone.
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> Same goes for navigation apps. Finding a restaurant with pictures and reviews is so much faster on my phone.

You shouldn't be doing this while driving. If you're doing this while not driving, you still can. Carplay doesn't make your phone inert while connected. You can still use Google Maps on your phone to punch in a location or look around the area, while still connected to Carplay.

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I was responding to:

> vastly superior and convenient way to view the same map you can see on your iPhone.

The map and the interface is vastly superior on my phone. Google Maps on iOS is barely usable while connected to CarPlay.

You shouldn’t operate anything while driving. Do that before you leave.

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> The map and the interface is vastly superior on my phone. Google Maps on iOS is barely usable while connected to CarPlay.

When browsing? I guess. When driving? I have a hard time agreeing with that.

> You shouldn’t operate anything while driving. Do that before you leave.

Exactly, so you not being able to do anything with Google Maps on the Carplay screen doesn't matter, since you don't need to do anything through there to begin with. Set your destination on your phone before you set of (whose functionality isn't reduced by being connected to Carplay), then the screen is naught more than a display after that.

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When the wireless CarPlay connects I can’t use Google Maps on my phone screen anymore. It’s one of the reasons I dumped it for other navigation apps. I also disliked the Google Maps spam I got on CarPlay while using other navigation apps. Very intrusive.
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> When the wireless CarPlay connects I can’t use Google Maps on my phone screen anymore.

Huh. That doesn't happen with wired carplay (at least for me), and I can't see why this would be different.

> I also disliked the Google Maps spam I got on CarPlay while using other navigation apps.

I haven't noticed that either for that matter. When you say 'spam' here, what exactly do you mean?

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When I look up a place on Google Maps but don’t use it for navigation. I then use another app for navigation. After 15 minutes Google Maps starts showing notifications on CarPlay asking me if I want to use Google Maps to navigate to my destination. I classify that as spam and distracting while driving.

This was about a year ago, I completely stopped using Google Maps since.

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I've disabled notifications for Google Maps, so that'd explain why I don't have that problem. It's either open and I'm actively using it, or I'm not and it shouldn't talk to me, so I don't see why it should notify my about anything.
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I do see the maps - on my phone. What does seeing them somewhere else add? It seems completely redundant to me.
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The bigger screen is nice. The integration is also nice. I can push a button on my steering wheel to activate Siri to tell it where to go. Music controls on the wheel also pass through to CarPaly. I have a low res auxiliary screen to display added data (oil temp, weather, etc) and the music option will display music track data from CarPlay as well.

So instead of trying to look at a tiny screen that’s clipped onto an air vent, I can use the screens and integrated controls, keeping my hands on the wheel and my eyes more in the road.

Also, the biggest battery drain is having the screen on. CarPlay allows me to have the screen on the phone off while still accessing all the data. With a wireless adapter, I can also leave the phone in my pocket, so I don’t need to set it up every time I get in the car or remember to grab it when getting out. So it feels more like the native experience of using the car.

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With the exception of the screen size I can do all of that with my phone in a mount as well. But you shouldn’t be operating your phone while driving, not even with CarPlay. It’s illegal in many countries.
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Your phone in a mount provides integration with your car's steering wheel buttons to allow for control without taking your hands off the wheel? Your mount allows you to leave the screen on your phone off while also using navigation with a screen?

I don't know that I believe that.

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Exactly. You shouldn't be touching screens with your hands while you drive. That's illegal where I live. But my dash mounted phone has Siri and Bluetooth so I can be hands-free for commands and I can use the steering wheel controls for media.
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The car screen is much better, for me. Much safer, and less distracting.
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I’d rather have the map shown on the headunit screen rather than have the phone screen next to a larger but unused headunit screen.
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I have a 15 year old Mercedes. I got the old integrated CD player and radio pulled out and Alpine makes a nice dash surround and canbus support module for the steering wheel controls. It has a 7" display where the old stuff was and wireless Android Auto.

It's pretty much like any new car as far as entertainment and maps. Plus, it's got physical buttons for everything else. I think recent cars may well be coming back to what I have on my old car.

ps. not mentioned, Anrdoid auto and Carplay are H264, later H265, video players with touch control and buttons in a return channel. The phones render the display internally and project it as video to the display. That's all. This is why much older generation displays with at least reasonable SOCs can run them near perfectly. They are not running Anrdoid themselves. In fact some of them are operating system-less SOCs that have nearly no firmware but a video player and the support for the touchscreen and buttons. Much like that crappy video player built into old TVs ten years ago.

I have them on my motorcycles too. It's way better than a phone, in that the user interface is designed to be less interactive and more focusses with larger buttons.

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I use to think this until i got a car with carplay. Now I can’t live without it. In fact wireless carplay was a game changer. You have to experience the convenience to know what it’s like.
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