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by happymellon2 hours ago |
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upvoteby littlecorner15 minutes ago|
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Which states? How much? Were these anomalous events that were overturned, or more systematic? These are honest questions I'm having, not trying to argue any narrative
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upvoteby GoblinSlayer1 hours ago|
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This, it boomeranged.
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upvoteby xienze1 hours ago|
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> Because this is leaning on blaming to UK for everything the US is doing to itself an awful lot.

Hasn't the UK had a culture of surveillance (the famous CCTV cameras) and arresting people over online wrongthink for quite some time though? Who inspired who?

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upvoteby happymellon58 minutes ago|
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The US has a history of arrests over "wrong think"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/18/facebook-com...

https://www.aclu.org/news/free-speech/new-hampshire-police-a...

https://www.fire.org/news/lawsuit-ex-cop-sues-after-spending...

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upvoteby inigyou46 minutes ago|
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This. The UK "wrongthink arrests" were for stuff like calling for a building full of people to be burned down. While the US arrests you for criticising the police chief.
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upvoteby hdgvhicv39 minutes ago|
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The US rate people for quoting a murder victim and not having the right level of performative grief not seen since Eva Peron died.
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upvoteby watwut59 minutes ago|
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No it did not. Online right wing is trying to push narrative that is all.
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upvoteby account4236 minutes ago|
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Is your privacy really worth giving up to "own the right"?
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upvoteby Flere-Imsaho40 minutes ago|
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> No it did not. Online right wing is trying to push narrative that is all.

It's sad that people don't see what's so obviously happening in the uk. Censorship is alive and well in the uk, and there are plans afoot to further the control of the online world.

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upvoteby happymellon28 minutes ago|
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Try reading the whole thing again.

We know there is censorship.

We do not like the censorship.

Americans fund the censorship.

Americans pass laws for censorship.

Americans fund censorship overseas.

UK passes law for censorship.

Americans - See it's the UK fault.

That is the part we are discussing.

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upvoteby foldr1 hours ago|
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No, not really. This is a narrative that is pushed by certain segments of the American right (and some of their UK allies). It easily dominates online discussion in an environment where the majority of people posting have no direct experience of life in the UK. Actual life in the UK is very unlike what you would imagine on the basis of reading HN threads, or Elon Musk’s twitter feed.

I suspect that most people with first hand knowledge have simply given up trying to contribute to HN threads about the UK. There is plenty of legitimate criticism to be made of the UK, but here (as you can see from the title) the discourse has degraded to such an extent that the mythically awful UK is held responsible even for bad laws passed by American legislature.

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upvoteby flir1 hours ago|
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No disagreement here, but I suppose it's a useful rhetorical trick. Paint something you don't like as "foreign". I've certainly seen Brits use a comparison with the Great Firewall of China to argue against various state surveillance projects.
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