> The hubris for surveillance in UK is staggering
replyYet the UK doesnt have private systems such as Flock like the US does.
Ah yes, how could we forget that the grass is always greyer in the other dystopia. That makes everything OK.
replyI'm waiting for them to turn every wifi router in 3D tracking nodes that monitor the exact location and body position of everyone nearby in buildings. Its too juicy of target once they get the tech fully figured out.
replythey already put more people in jail than any other country for expressing the wrong opinions on social networks
reply"Wrong opinions" as in death threats and similar light-hearted stuff?
replyI've seen too many that didn't post targeted death threats.
Also of people who posted stuff that could be interpreted as vague calls to action when riots were happening.
It becomes notewhorty tho that those people of note making a facebook posts got punished harder than the average rioter and reprisal seems to disproportionately target action that establishment might feel threathened by.
replyFrom my experience it's easy to find plenty similar or even more direct or more hatefull messages or calls to action regarding other places, events or more minor movements. But those come from minorities or involve movements with less momentum or movements abroad.
On the one hand, I hate the expansion of authoritarian power by the state.
replyOn the other, I do think that we should put people in prison for posting on facebook. That way I won't have to keep seeing my crazy uncle at family gatherings!
I can't help but think you'll get a lot more crazy uncles as more people subconsciously (and consciously) feel the social contract has been broken and democratic deficits persist.
There will just be more social cooling with all the dog whistles that follow.
replyI wonder when the catch all "death threats" ever became a commonly accepted excuse for locking people up. That should be reserved for cases where people are a threat to others, which is only tangentially related to the direct statements they have made.
replyLucy Connolly is the archetypal case. Tell me in your own words what Lucy did and whether she should have been punished. Make sure to quote the entire tweet.
replyGoing by the imaged tweet in https://x.com/piersmorgan/status/1925826687679279491 she expressed dissatisfaction with government immigration policies and advocated for vigilante action to compensate for perceived failures of the government including the destruction of housing facilities. The framing also makes it clear that the statement was an emotional response to very real crimes that have been committed and which to this day have not been adequately addressed by the government. Meanwhile she made only a vague call to action without any concrete plan that could lead anyone without an agenda to believe that she would be following through with it. Essentially, she committed barely more than a thought crime. If you think that this is the kind of person that people who have demonstrated their willingness and ability to commit violent crimes should be released to make prison space for then you are absolutely bonkers.
replyI guarantee you that exactly the same statement made about other groups would not even lead to an investigation.
Quote the entire tweet.
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