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At every point in my life after age 25 or so, I could look back 10 years and be appalled at how much time I wasted back then. 50-year-old me is angry at 40-year-old me for wasting my 40s, as 25-year-old me was angry at 15-year-old me for wasting my high school time. What a waste my youth always seems!
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I generally tend to not have that feeling.

For me to feel like it is wasted is to put on a definition of the time period that wasn't there. It is internal personal fan fiction at that point.

I don't feel like I missed out on anything.

There is also the added point of whatever position you take, it is always a trade off with something else.

To be awfully reductionist. The fat people envy the skinny because their health is in check, the skinny envy the fat because they have a sense of care free freedom.

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Reminds me of that saying "The youth is wasted on the young". It's only once we truly have no time do we realize how much time we really had.

I love my kids but they take a lot of time. Wouldn't change it for the world though.

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Yes. Before I became a dad, I didn't realize how physically and financially constrained people are with regards to number of kids that they have. For me and my wife, our first child took all our time, resources and energy.

This was a shock to me because my parents had 4 children and never seemed to struggle. Also, they were much better off than me financially and could afford to hire help.

My biggest achievement as a dad is the fact that my son speaks 3 languages. In spite of the fact that I was working full time, he still learned to speak my native language fluently from me. And I still did house chores too. And still worked on side hustles at night and weekends.

But yes, I had no life at all for 5 years straight. No life at all. I'm a shell of my former self. My main concern is that I'm showing my son a bad example of how a dad should be. I literally can't afford to raise him with the same values as I was raised with... Because he would grow up into someone like me and that would be my greatest fear.

Now I understand why some parents spoil their children and focus 100% on boosting the child's confidence. This is what you have to do if you're poor. Because you need your child to believe they are above you. That way when they see how shit your life is, they don't have to believe theirs will also end up like this.

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> I literally can't afford to raise him with the same values as I was raised with...

If it's any consolation he would have to figure out that himself anyway, because the world is currently changing faster than ever.

I was on vacation a while ago, where I had to explain to my kids the concept of not being able to pause a TV broadcast.

They live in a world of entertainment on demand and LLMs. My values were coined way before all that.

As for myself I'm wearing the skin of that young man I was 10 years ago and don't understand what was the big deal with some of those things he cared so much for.

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I appreciate the intention you and others are bringing. Not to be defeatist, but I do wonder how much of trying to set it straight sticks long term?

People have been trying to straighten things out for millennia and we are still in this predicament.

That isn't to say, don't try. It is to say, don't cling to an out come.

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The old "I won't raise my kids like my parents raised me" problem, which inevitably seems to lead to raising kids with a different set of grievances and unresolved issues.

I realised it was a lost cause when I realised that literally everyone I knew had some sort of "my parents are imperfect and it's broken me somehow" story. I think it might just be part of the human condition to grow up and realise your parents were flawed humans who made mistakes raising you.

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The outcome I'm clinging to is freedom. Until I have that, nothing else matters.
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Nothing teaches productivity better than being a participating parent.
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Not sure this is fully accurate. Managing kids can use up one's will power or self control resources considerably. There can also be sleep deprivation with young children and other energy drain. I'm not really sure but my focus / ability to avoid distractions at work may actually have gotten worse since having kids.
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Yeah, work is now my time for tranquility.

My passion for tech remains, and now work is the time I spend on it, but not on my assigned priorities, sadly.

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> I'm shocked by the amount of time people who don't have kids waste.

I'm shocked by the sanctimonious tone of those with kids; it's likely professional bias from having someone that needs schooling at home.

Then, I will always be amazed by how those with offspring feel the need to constantly validate and justify themselves for their choice, while those without barely touch the argument.

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