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"only damage". That's the damage. Five 9s is a thing, because being down means you lose market, your brand is harmed, and no one wants to use you. No one complies with 'cease and desist' orders before seeing if there's any meat at all. No one.

And the legal system "gets that". Reasonable compliance isn't "Oh, someone sent me a C&D. I should destroy my entire business on the off change it makes sense to do so. I'll just raze everything to the ground, hoping that it's better than just... having everything razed to the ground through a suit."

Just.. no. The legal system knows that due diligence is not simply complying, but instead taking time to validate the claim, see if it makes sense, and so on. After all, if the matter were truly urgent, an injunction could easily be obtained.

by ranger_danger5 hours ago|

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I don't think anyone was making money on nitter instances anyway, I don't see much in the way of any "brand" or business to lose... and lose to who? Not like there's a competitor. This is just a side project not worth playing games with IMO.

I wouldn't consider temporarily disabling a side project "razing the project to the ground" either.

> no one wants to use you

How do you know this was ever a project goal? Most FOSS projects I talk to have no interest in actively trying to gain more users on purpose.

by b1125 hours ago|

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I was having a generic conversation about the risks to continue service, when handed a C&D, prior to reasonable assessment time. And my point was? There is none.

This helps to give optics into what to do, when served a plate of absurdity.

And if this C&D is caved to, then so will future ones, and Nitter won't have any use anyhow.

by thayne2 hours ago|

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Most of the C&D cases I've heard about on HN, have been against small open source projects that absolutely don't have the legal resources to fight it, and I'm sure the ones sending that letter know it. I suspect that companies are much more likely to send a C&D to an individual or small community than to a company with a legal team.

by ranger_danger4 hours ago|

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> And if this C&D is caved to, then so will future ones, and Nitter won't have any use anyhow.

I don't agree with any of that but ok. It's not like they can stop instances in other countries they have no jurisdiction over, so I don't think its "use" will suddenly vanish.