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I tried them with our small company. They seem ... young. Support on discord is not something I can sell to our owners. We sent a ticket that activating some of their services instantly caused bad bots to scan our site, and never got a decent reply on that. Their attitude does not inspire confidence and for that reason we scrapped them as an option. Never actually found a good European option besides them, which is sad.
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There is a normal support ticket system not on Discord, which they loudly advertise for having a very good response time. The Discord server is not the primary support method
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> We sent a ticket that activating some of their services instantly caused bad bots to scan our site

You assigned a new https certificate around that time, didn't you? Those are public now and will cause an immediate scan.

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Like, the bad bots you see when they get an https cert issued and it becomes visible in the public logs, or something else?

Agree discord sucks.

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We use them en they have improved a lot in the last year. For edge services they have all the important thing like ddos protection and edge scripting. There is no replacement for Cloudflare Tunnel, but frp [1] is a good alternative.

We don’t miss Cloudflare one bit.

[1] https://github.com/fatedier/frp

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They're fine for a CDN but overall their offering surprisingly immature IME. The devx for their hosted scripts/database just isn't there, and e.g. they only allow one global API key with full permissions, etc.
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Bunny is the MVP among these European alternatives. It's not just a CDN, it offers Cloudflare-style Edge scripting, Edge workers, databases (Sqlite compatible) etc.
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Like bunny.net - its still tiny compared to CF but hopefully they will grow and won't adopt the crappier bits of CF.
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They don't have Cloudflare Tunnels which is almost too good to pass up.

I don't particularly understand how CF makes money on it, with the many high traffic sites I have used that I know don't pay CF a dime. Tunnels adds so much more overhead in compute on both ends more than their normal CDN/proxy would.

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big corps = big money. they dont make money from your $5/mth static site, its practically free when you're at CF scale
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I should have referenced what I was thinking about: https://newtrackon.com/

There's 10+ HTTP trackers using CF. Low end EACH process 300-500 MILLION requests/24hr uncached, some exceed a billion reqs/day (using statistics from other open trackers). That's a crap load of transfer and compute to process those tiny network connections.

As someone that's run a Tunnel on a much lesser site still in the millions, the daemon uses a sizeable amount of CPU and I can't see any reason why it's not the same on the other end.

What ever source CF has going on, kudos to them and their engineering team.

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