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So I first read this comment and thought is looked like AI and thought I’d give the benefit of the doubt. Then I saw this where there is no doubt: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49687774

I thought, I wonder if it’s the same guy? Sure enough.

Stop it.

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He did acknowledge he posted something similar elsewhere a few months ago. I found his comment useful.
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andy99 isn't replying to my post here
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> I’d give the benefit of the doubt.

So fucking do it! Who died and made you the style police?

> Stop it.

He's making reasonable points, in a readable fashion.

You, on the other hand...

What's your point? AI bad? Srsly, is that all you've got?

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Can you explain how the statement below makes sense?

>The fuse stops it but the real issue is the owner is the only one without the record.

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If I take your two sentence comment and remove one sentence it also is non-sensical. Stop removing context.

>Your mileage went from VW->telematics vendor->broker->carfax, thats the chain it usually follows. The fuse stops it but the real...

Prior commentary advised removing the fuse to stop the telemetry. This comment points out that the chain of information flow precludes the owner of the car.

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>the real issue is the owner is the only one without the record

I don't understand what "the record" is referring to here. The mileage is presumably still on the odometer of the car. So what is "the record" that the owner does not have and how is that causing the owner an issue?

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Presumably the mileage is a subset of the data that makes up "the record"?
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Oh, sweet summer child.

You don't really think they added all that circuitry and a cell connection just to collect odometer information, do you?

> how is that causing the owner an issue?

Welp, it was a huge issue for a lot of owners when GM OnStar started sharing real-time driving data with insurance companies.

Supposedly they're stopping that, but a lot of the damage is done.

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You have to read it in context with what it is referring to, and perhaps to know a little bit about the issue. In that respect, it's like a lot of conversations around here.

I read this as:

"Removing the fuse that provides power to the telematics module can stop data collection from a vehicle, but the real issue is that the putative owner is the only one who isn't instantly privy to all of the collected data."

In any case, the complaint above was obviously about AI usage, and there are a lot of good reasons to use AI for editing your words, starting with (for example) if you're not a native speaker.

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Is there usually a fuse that just turns off the telemetry? I would be surprised if that is the case. I could see the design being "if you turn this fuse off to turn off telemetry, you'll also lose these functions: ..." and if they did it "right" they'd make the car non-functional.

My car is from 2011 and I do wonder if there is any telemetry in it.

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Yeah an electrical fuse for telemetry seems really odd. Even without malice it would be strange if disconnecting power to some part of the computer only affected telemetry.

I could see a fuse for cellular comms, be presumably that would also disable maps, contacting emergency services in an accident, etc. which might be an acceptable tradeoff.

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My Ford has a dedicated fuse for accessory packages that include the modem. Mine doesn't have any other options that share that fuse so it is functionally the telemetry fuse.
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There’s probably a fuse to turn off the cellular radio that transmits the data. Whether that’s all it covers may vary from car to car. Or in some models it’s probably possible to just disconnect the radio entirely.
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Telemetry is usually a standalone module. Heres one off a 26 Hyundai Palisade -- Telematics (DCU) Part num: 96510P9100 firmware (OTA updatable) 01F.7.CAN.3.000.18.714.9

Its only job is to detect harsh acceleration and brake events. Probably being sold to your insurer.

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