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by boplicity7 hours ago |
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upvoteby corytheboyd7 hours ago|
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> There are many events you can't get into now without a smartphone.

Yeah, it's pretty bad.

At least Apple's Wallet app works offline. There is nothing worse than having to use a dogshit proprietary app, waiting for it to handshake with four thousand data collection services before you can reach your My Tickets page, in a location where cell service is shit because thousands of other people are trying to do the same thing.

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upvoteby tavavex7 hours ago|
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At least you can still almost always get a normal old PDF that you can print or open on your phone. Somehow these methods even work without sending gigabytes of data to 300 random services, requiring access to every sensor and going through the most botched workflows and UX choices you can imagine. A technological miracle if you ask me.

I'm enjoying the time before it gets really bad, because so far it's usually just the extremely large and centralized companies who let themselves engage this kind of abuse. Small venues, movie theaters, rewards programs or hotel reservations still find complex digital tickets to be too weird, and let us do things the boring old way.

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upvoteby freedomben7 hours ago|
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I don't go to many events, but the last one I went to was a concert, and the tickets required the app and could not be screenshotted or PDFed because there was some motion thing on the QR code to ensure that it wasn't a screenshot. It really pissed me off, but there's not much I can do about it other than boycott the show.

Someday, I'd like to try capturing an animated gif or short MP4 or something of the motion, and see if that works, but the pragmatic part of me overwhelmed the hacker side of me. I would hate to lose my money on the ticket and not be able to see the show because I tried to hack the process

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upvoteby bombcar7 hours ago|
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The ones I've seen pretty clearly had some of the motion/change defined by the time. We're so fucked.
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upvoteby cr18956 hours ago|
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I'm wondering what the motion thing is even meant to address. Either a ticket is valid and used / not used or it's not a valid ticket. What about that requires a real-time motion thing?
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upvoteby bee_rider6 hours ago|
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I wonder if they want to prevent reselling or at least require that it goes through their app? (I think this is a bad thing for them to do, just trying to think of the motivation).
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upvoteby freedomben6 hours ago|
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My guess is, you're right, it's to force your use of their app. for data harvesting reasons?
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upvoteby bee_rider6 hours ago|
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Could be that too.
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upvoteby hackingonempty6 hours ago|
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The code is rolling so you can't use a screenshot to enter the show. This is to stop ticket transfers outside the system.

The ticket stub is animated so you can't use a simple screenshot to move to a better location once inside the show.

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upvoteby well_ackshually5 hours ago|
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Human beings are checking those tickets, and movement is proof of liveness (and not a screenshot you and 25 friends are sharing). Many ticket checking systems are not connected to the internet and cannot/will not check if it's already been used. Many of the motion enabled codes are also basically working in the same way as 2FA codes: your ticket is given with a public key, usually unique to your device, and rotates every minute. Allows them to ensure that the ticket is up to date, not forged and signed properly.
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upvoteby corytheboyd6 hours ago|
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> [...] there was some motion thing on the QR code

Yep, same happened to me with some baseball game tickets. So incredibly dumb.

Even worse, we split into two groups and I had to ask the other group to download the app... create an account... and finally be able to "transfer" the tickets to them. It took like ten minutes, and thank god we weren't at the park yet trying to do all that. Ugh.

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upvoteby sitkack7 hours ago|
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These small operators are increasing their usage of the Technical Abomination Solutions, the simple QR code ticket is on the way out
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upvoteby l726 hours ago|
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Haha. I bought tickets to an event at the ticket window. They required sending it to my phone and wouldn’t print me a ticket! (They used ticket master). I have heard if you complain enough, they’ll have a security person escort you, but they will not just print you tickets!
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upvoteby lesuorac7 hours ago|
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It’s bad. I used to have a 6s which doesn’t have some nfc thing so most of the ticketmaster readers didn’t work and i had to go lookup how to get a barcode to appear..
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upvoteby saghm7 hours ago|
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I went a baseball playoff game this week with my father-in-law, and he sent me the ticket from TicketMaster in advance (not blaming him of course). I downloaded the app and logged in, and the first thing it prompted me was to select what type of events I was interested in...just to view the ticket that I already had on my account. It was skippable with some small, not-obviously-button-looking text at the bottom, so I did that, but it sucks that even when I do genuinely find digital tickets convenient, the experience is still horrible. (There was an option for exporting to Google Wallet but it kept failing, which unfortunately did not surprise me)
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upvoteby subpixel7 hours ago|
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I found out the expensive way this year that you cannot even give someone a TicketMaster ticket. A ticket is app-based, and bound to your TicketMaster account and the only conceivable way to share it would be to give someone else your account credentials, which is stymied by the app's SMS based 2FA.

I will never give that company another dime, I don't care if John Lennon is reanimated and launches a comedy tour.

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upvoteby criddell7 hours ago|
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Did you try this:

https://help.ticketmaster.com/hc/en-us/articles/978697592667...

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upvoteby rpdillon2 hours ago|
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The efficacy there is going to hinge on step 3:

> Select Transfer to see if your order is eligible for transfer.

Anyone have any idea how often events are allowed to transfer? I assume the artist/venue drive this decision.

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upvoteby NamlchakKhandro6 hours ago|
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Don't care
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upvoteby radicality6 hours ago|
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Oh yeah? I’m absolutely against Ticketmaster and their whole monopoly and the whole platform sucks with all the scalpers, but, for this specific case I never had any issues and it works well for me. I’ve bought 2 tickets multiple times on Ticketmaster, and then ‘transferred’ one of them from the Ticketmaster UI to my partner, and then they ‘accept’ it on their account and the ticket appears there. This transfer is thankfully free.
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upvoteby Telemakhos7 hours ago|
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I think the parent poster was asking how consistent that is across geographic divides. I notice the same effect: I live part of the year in a city where public transport requires either a smartphone or tap-to-pay, and the rest of the year in a rural area where nobody assumes you're carrying a smartphone. It seems to me at least that urban areas are standardizing on requiring people to carry a smartphone for tickets, passes, even menus in some places; while this hasn't caught on in rural areas. I would bet that people in rural areas will regard Apple's event ticket maker as alien to their lives and a sign of some sort of urban folly. I wonder if there's a similar urban/rural division on users of Apple's Invites app.
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upvoteby burningChrome6 hours ago|
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Most of the dev conferences around the Midwest have both the QR ticket code and then you can print a physical ticket as well - just in case. Speaking with people who work at the events, physical tickets are a life saver in conference halls where wifi/cell coverage is awful.

Nobody volunteering wants to be the bad guy and tell someone they can't enter the event because they don't have a digital ticket.

Of course a dev conference can be lenient. A Red Hot Chili Peppers concert? Probably not so much.

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upvoteby tietjens7 hours ago|
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Sincere question: what events?
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upvoteby iwontberude6 hours ago|
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