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So how can humans do it?

If humans don't have lidar but can drive it's an existence proof of the viability of that approach.

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In addition to vision, humans have proprioception and kinesthesia, hearing, inner ear receptors for balance, a sense of touch, sense of smell. We use all of these sensory inputs when we drive. And even then humans get into lots of accidents.

Lidar is superhuman vision.

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How do you use your sense of smell to help you drive? I can't smell anything outside my car thanks to the air filter.

The real answer is very simple: safe drivers slow down to adapt to poor conditions (including visibility). Lidar might reduce how much it needs to slow down but I don't think it will be eliminated because you can't drive with only lidar.

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> How do you use your sense of smell to help you drive?

I smell smoke before I see it. Useful if there's a forest fire up ahead.

Burning rubber or smoke from the engine is an indicator of a mechanical issue.

> you can't drive with only lidar.

Nobody said you could. This is a strawman.

Tesla stans are the only ones trying to convince everyone you can only drive with cameras. Everyone else is pretty united on the usefulness of multiple inputs.

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> Nobody said you could. This is a strawman.

Didn't mean it in that way. I meant a car with camera+lidar would realistically still slow down because of the reduced camera visibility.

> Tesla stans are the only ones trying to convince everyone you can only drive with cameras. Everyone else is pretty united on the usefulness of multiple inputs.

Ignore them. The latest Model S and X have radar again, but possibly unused right now, so they are probably going to roll that out in a refresh of the 3 and Y eventually.

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Humans can't do it safely during a proper blizzard. (Toronto doesn't really get proper blizzards, though).
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