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by kstrauser11 hours ago |
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upvoteby asdf889909 hours ago|
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But IPv6 is complex and inherently globally accessible. Yes, NAT IS not supposed to be a firewall but it works like one nonetheless in many cases.

IPv6 will never replace IPv4 because it is a different protocol rather than merely a new version. The name is a lie.

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upvoteby thayne5 hours ago|
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> IPv6 is... inherently globally accessible.

No, it's not. If you really want a NAT there is no reason you can't use a NAT with ipv6. In fact, it can work even better because instead of using a random port for the translation, you can use a random ip address for each connection.

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upvoteby asdf889903 hours ago|
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A random ip address that is globally reachable?
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upvoteby Dagonfly3 hours ago|
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Why would it be reachable? It might be name-able but that doesn't imply reachable.

You're conflating the two parts of NAT: address translation and inbound filtering. A router can block any inbound traffic coming from WAN, even if the IPv6s on the LAN side are public.

In fact, hole punching for IPv4 shows this distinction. By default inbound traffic is blocked, but as soon as private host has opened up a connection, it is (indirectly) reachable and nameable (via the routers public IP + port).

BTW, static IPv4 NAT with public addresses on both sides exists as well.

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upvoteby asdf8899045 minutes ago|
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Addressable means routable. Otherwise the distinction between a Public and Private address becomes one of firewall rules rather than a meaningful property of the IP Address.

And as you say, hole punching is still “PUBLIC IP” + port. Not an IP and any port you fancy unless the firewall was configured correctly.

Maybe I am wrong, maybe you’re confused, maybe IPv6 is just rubbish. Maybe all 3.

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upvoteby zekica3 hours ago|
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What do you mean globally accessible? All the devices on my network have global IPv6 addresses for the last 5 years - since my ISP enabled IPv6 but none of them are accessible unless I configure it.
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upvoteby kstrauser6 hours ago|
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Very weird take, and not supported by facts or evidence, but OK.
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upvoteby asdf889903 hours ago|
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Do you ever wonder if most people don’t “see the facts” and after almost 3 decades and so much the adoption at 50% might mean to consider if the technology is just rubbish?
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