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by yurimo6 hours ago |
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upvoteby testbjjl1 hours ago|
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> For my workflow pro astra has been very helpful, likely will be less so if it becomes far too expensive.

OpenAI is committed to helping us find the proper valuation of our workflows and we’re committed to paying far less than the perceived value these tools bring. Reminds me of the old Oracle pricing strategy of “how much you got?”

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upvoteby EbNar4 hours ago|
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Same. I'm in the plus plan, the chat and codex/work are decoupled there and I basically never use the latter. I'll keep my subscription until the merge happens and I'll jump ship (where, tho?) if it severely limits my usage. At least it seems like "instant" is going to stay unlimited.
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upvoteby californical3 hours ago|
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Definitely have to recommend putting $10 in openrouter and try deepseek 4.1 flash. I can’t believe how far I’ve gone with only spending like $0.70 so far on credits
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upvoteby hokkos2 hours ago|
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When looking at the performance / price graph of artificial analysis, we can see that deepseek doesn't seem to have a better profile, just notably worse and slightly cheaper models, so in the future a chatgpt user will be better serve with switching to Luna or Terra that have better profile than deepseek.
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upvoteby alt-machine-ref3 hours ago|
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Deepseek is truly a dumdum model if you move your full work into it.

For small evaluation ds is impressive.

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upvoteby EbNar3 hours ago|
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I can use DS and others through my Kagi sub. The thing about ChatGPT was the integrated environment/memory and the ability to create artifacts, which make it very useful for my job (teaching /researching). I don't use llms for coding, nor for agentic stuff.
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upvoteby znpy3 hours ago|
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> Definitely have to recommend putting $10 in openrouter and try deepseek 4.1 flash.

I'm pleasantly surprised by grok models.

We use cursor at work and i'm at the $20/month plan.

I used to mostly use Gpt, composer and occasionally opus. But this month i maxed these models quota and I've been working with Grok 4.7 essentially non stop for the last two weeks.

Grok is fairly verbose and somewhat slower but in the end it does get the job done. I've done a surprising amount of work (planning, implementing, tool usage, analysis) on the base plan.

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upvoteby EbNar2 hours ago|
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Giving money to Musk, tho... I'm not saying anybody shouldn't... I'm saying I'm not going to.
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upvoteby znpy1 hours ago|
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i don't really care, frankly.
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upvoteby newdee1 hours ago|
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Why say anything then?
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upvoteby rickdeckard1 hours ago|
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Sharing of opinion obviously, which is a purpose of this platform. Is this only valid if a poster also condemns all other views?

OP is not even demanding others to adopt it, so I don't see why it rubs people like this.

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upvoteby pcf1 hours ago|
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But you still wanted to say something, didn't you?

Well, if so I'll say something too – I would feel better giving money to a company led by a man who has stated repeatedly why he wants "maximum truth-seeking AI".

Ironically enough I'm currently on a ChatGPT Pro 200 package because OpenAI has been my platform for all my serious (non-coder-guided) coding work so far.

But with this new change I might actually finally jump ship. And maybe it would be to SpaceXAI and their Grok Ultra package. That's still $200/month for me, but I would get 50x more usage compared to plus, compared to "just" 20x with ChatGPT Pro 200. It looks tempting.

Musk's main concept summarised by Gemini: "Truth as Safety: Musk argues that the most important aspect of AI safety is ensuring the system is maximally curious and honest, even if that truth is unpopular.

Raising vs. Programming: He compares developing superintelligence to raising a child rather than strictly coding it, warning that forcing an AI to hold contradictory or untruthful principles will break its logic and make it 'insane'."

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upvoteby NorwegianDude1 hours ago|
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Grok is the least "honest" out there. And you should 100 % never believe anything Elon Musk says, he's one of the most clueless and unreliable people in existence.

Grok had specific baked in instructions to avoid negative statements about Musk and Trump, how is that for truth seeking? No other LLM company has done that from what I know.

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upvoteby defrost1 hours ago|
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Reportedly LLMs from China churn and struggle a little with questions related to Winnie the Pooh:

DeepSeek’s Winnie-the-Pooh Problem (Feb 2025) - https://medium.com/humanai/deepseeks-winnie-the-pooh-problem...

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upvoteby stelonix6 hours ago|
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That also has been my mode of operation. Plan + review on GPT web and implement with Codex. Bugs, logs, diffs etc are frequently sent to chat to find bugs etc. Seems they're going full agentic and also trying to close that profit gap.
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upvoteby jarenmf5 hours ago|
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Same for me, I have Claude and codex. And usage limits in codex are hit more often. what was keeping me from switching was only the chat was virtually not limited. I guess it's time to switch.
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upvoteby EbNar1 hours ago|
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From your experience, allowance for pure chat (no agentic stuff) is more generous in Claude than in The coming ChatGPT merge? Just asking, because I'm undecided as well. I'm on chatgpt plus now and chat is 99% of my usage.
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upvoteby rolosa1 hours ago|
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Definitely not. Chat in Claude counts towards your weekly and 5 hour usage. Chat in ChatGPT was truly unique in that it was unlimited, even on the thinking modes.
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