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by mint55 hours ago |
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upvoteby gavinray5 hours ago|
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Do you mind being slightly drizzled on?

If not, Seattle/Bellevue are a great option. Or Portland even.

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upvoteby titanomachy2 hours ago|
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> highly walkable, diverse activities

I don't think Bellevue fits the bill here, but certain Seattle neighborhoods do.

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upvoteby mint54 hours ago|
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Seattle as in Amazonville? Explored there a bit last summer, pass. All cited items are worse.

Portland I’ll admit haven’t explored well, so not going to give a judgement.

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upvoteby dghlsakjg2 hours ago|
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If you think Seattle is Amazonville and worse in all ways than SF, it sounds like you visited South Lake Union and no other part of the city. Amazon's footprint is pretty limited outside of SLU, which is one of the least interesting neighborhoods in the city. Downtown just south of it also sucks.

Ballard, Capitol Hill, Alki, University, Sunset Hill... The list goes on. Every single one of those neighborhoods has a completely different vibe (many of them used to be different cities). Incredible restaurants if you put in the slightest amount of effort to finding them. Tons of fun and interesting activities. The city is on a hill above the ocean (JUST like SF), the views are hard to avoid. Year round running weather. It may be that you just like SF more, and that's fine.

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upvoteby mint52 hours ago|
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I ran every day I was there in different directions including a 16 mile loop to the tip of discovery park, it’s not a great running city, and its views aren’t particularly great.

Sure it’s okay, not as nice for running as SF or Vancouver but yeah far better than Phoenix and SoCal cities.

Maybe I went to the wrong areas, but it sounds like I was supposed to get to the sprawling suburbs?

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upvoteby dghlsakjg45 minutes ago|
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None of the neighborhoods I mentioned are suburban. If you don't recognize them, it sort of tips your hand at not knwoing the city at all, as much as calling the entire city "Amazonville". Discovery park isn't known for views, there are other places in the city that are. Ballard is not some sprawling suburban neighborhood, its typically one of the most recomended places in the city to visit. You get there by walking the lakefront bike path from SLU (which is actually "Amazonville"). Capitol Hill is a 20 minute walk from downtown. Alki isn't walkable from downtown, but you can take the passenger ferry. I don't know where you got the idea of "sprawling suburbs".

You are allowed to personally like one city over the other. It just seems silly to base your opinion on living in one and a few days in another, and then argue when people point out that it seems like you haven't really done or gone to the places that make a place interesting.

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upvoteby nradov4 hours ago|
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In the real world you'll have to compromise on some of your priorities.
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upvoteby mint54 hours ago|
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Okay. Why compromise when I get all those in SF?

No compromise needed on those points, the compromise is living in a smaller apartment, but it’s okay since now my backyard is Golden Gate Park.

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upvoteby jmathai3 hours ago|
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I was in the Bay Area for almost 2 decades. I’m familiar with this mindset. There are so many compromises you make living in the Bay Area … like any other location.

More traffic, fewer families, faster pace of life, etc.

The Bay Area has its pros and cons.

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upvoteby mint51 hours ago|
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Well keep in mind this thread is in the context of the top level comment being “Unless you fit a certain very narrow demographic and career profile, SF is a shitty place to actually live”

So yes I compromise on apartment/house size because I value walkability, local activity density, and year round running. Guess that makes me part of the “very narrow demographic” in USA.

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upvoteby supersimpleguy15 minutes ago|
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> walkability, local activity density, and year round running

The fact that you think SF is the only city in America with these three things and the flippant, sarcastic "guess that makes me part of the very narrow demographic" quip tells me you aren't really approaching this discussion with an open mind.

No city on the planet is perfect. You are making tradeoffs by living where you do, same as I do living where I am.

Why does this idea seem like a personal attack to you? Every single reply you've made in this thread has the subtext "no, nope, not my experience, you're wrong".

Again, you like SF. That's great! It's not for everyone. That's not an assault on your personage.

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