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Excel was always an antipattern for me, I work with biological data, which Excel until recently couldn't even import without data corruption [1]

If it's necessary to recreate all the keyboard shortcuts for Excel like Emacs has done with evil-mode for vim, maybe that works, I don't know.

Hell the finance guys can almost make their own replacement on their own today, with AI.

[1] https://www.science.org/content/article/one-five-genetics-pa...

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I think you are massively underestimating the engineering effort of replacing Excel in large organizations. I don’t think the finance guys can reliably vibe-code an alternative to a massive product that’s at the core of their operations.

Handling simultaneous edits, guaranteeing correctness, handling massive data sets… as amazing as AI is, this is a huge can of worms.

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You don't need to vibe code an alternative to excel, you need to vibe code a solution to the problem you're solving with an excel sheet.

Any nontrivial excel sheet should be a database backed application, the finance guys who build them are in every sense programmers they're just using the wrong tool by convention.

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An agent, sqite, and some html. Are what they want.
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You're missing the point that the users don't want an application. They want to go off on flights of fancy altering the "solution" as they see fit. Excel lets them do whatever crazy thing they want without constraints. Having a database-backed application is exactly what they don't want because they can't be "creative" with it.

I agree with you, BTW, but I've never seen moving Excel sheets to an application work in practice. You can do it, and it just creates more Excel sheets.

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This is in fact several major things:

* Redo UI patterns (for old users): Only matter for on-boarding and compatibility, and probably need to redo the anti-patterns, not necessarily a good idea, or at least must be hold before the next:

* Define a much better internal model than excel has (I bet a mixture of relational, array model as core, then a reactive layer on top), including proper support for correct datatypes (not localized!), dates in all shapes, currency, commodities, unit of measure, etc, tables default as fixed type per column instead of free-form, then we have proper "variant" values, use algebraic types, and so on...

* Then redo the UI

* Define how import/export correctly (so not more non-sense about import based on localized dates, currencies...)

* ... and from legacy formats like Excel

P.D: I explore the idea on https://tablam.org and my goal is eventually marry what excel+access do in one app

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> guaranteeing correctness

So long as you don't have things which aren't dates but which Excel insists totally are. (Meme: https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/2429759-involuntary-celibacy...)

But yes, cans of worms are many, and Tardis-like they are larger inside than out.

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If organizations can't move off Excel, and outages like this continue to be a problem, then competitors that don't use Excel stand to gain an advantage.

Let the dinosaurs go extinct!

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The majority of finance guys can't even vibe code a markdown editor, let's be honest here.
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Yeah, we wont be one-shotting stuff like this for a least another year or maybe even two! (This is a risky prediction, but I made it.)
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Nobody needs to vibe-code OpenOffice Calc, it has existed for decades and works well.
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Actually importing gene names was possible without having autoconverted names, you had to make sure you were importing files using an import tool, currently listed under the "Data" tab and then importing data from file/web or data, or use the button specific for .csv/txt. In this way, Excel would open gene data in a table editor without renaming gene names if you made sure, this has been possible since at least 2005 I believe, or maybe even earlier. It was critical to not just auto-click or open a .csv or .txt file with Excel, but specifically open a blank or existing workbook and then use the import tool from inside the application. Opening data table files directly with Excel was/is typically bad practice.
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Excel is still the tool in Finance. It is the database, the visualization, the calculation enginer, the collaboration tool, and many other things all rolled into one.
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So your suggestion is to make an Excel clone with AI?
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What other option is there?

Edit: actually I think there's got to be a far better and completely different UI that's possible now with AI. There has to be something better. What is it? I don't know. Some clever specialist will invent it.

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Python.

Just throw the raw data at the LLM and tell it to do the analysis directly on that, and there's a good chance it will use python and some data science libraries for you.

And if you want, it'll turn it into a web page where people can drag and drop more raw data files on to get updated analytics.

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But then you’re still just using a vibe coded Excel. Maybe you save a little bit on subscription costs, but that’s probably swamped by other costs.
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This. Judging from replies there are a lot of folks here who imagine Excel usage being something on the order of basic readouts with some SUM()'s and MEAN()'s.

The real grip comes from entire business processes implemented across dozens of worksheets with incredibly complicated cross linked formulae relying on Excel edge case behavior. As soon as LibreOffice et al display the most minute differences they're done and will never be mentioned again.

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What about libreoffice calc?
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That is the only legit solution I’ve heard so far. What is your experience with it? A worthy replacement?
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No. Excel really doesn't have an equivalent replacement. Other parts of the office suite do although if you're a lawyer (revision marking) or have other specific integration needs, you probably need Word.

If you're just doing lists with maybe some simple calcs (which is what most people use spreadsheets for most of the time), pretty much anything works.

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May I ask for a few examples of things you do in Excel that don't have a replacement?

The vast majority of people I have seen using Excel don't know how to write a formula. Now they just started copy-pasting whatever ChatGPT was telling them to copy-paste, but well... and anyway all the alternatives do support formulas of course.

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There are plenty of functional replacements. However there are zero replacements that emulate the same keystrokes and keyboard shortcuts and all other aspects of hard-won muscle memory like function names and quirks of behavior.
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When companies don't want their employees to work remotely and force them to come to the office because they think it's more profitable, it's not like they give a shit what the employees think.

Why would they give a shit about the little comfort of the employees who don't want to learn new shortcuts?

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It's been years since I've really tried to exercise Excel (and haven't used it--or Libre Office--in a long time). Pivot tables, a number of the other data-related functions... Just a bunch of things I'm not going to spend a couple of days digging into. Google Workspace works fine for my needs.
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Pivot tables have been in Calc for years. Do you have any current, specific examples of things you need from Calc that it can't do?
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But then it really sounds like "yeah, Excel does have alternatives"?
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For my use case, mainly science stuff, works like a charm. I find Calc better because I could never get used to the ribbon, and it's also way faster. I actually did my whole thesis in LibreOffice, including all text, references and figures. Afterwards, during the PhD, it was replaced mostly by Python and R, but at that point I was really hitting some resource limits with huge CSVs.
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The main issue is that excel has some proprietary features that make it hard to migrate off.

Otherwise calc has everything for most people. Macros work different a little.

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I sometimes use it for personal use and it seems all right, but I'm not a power user.

I've been finding myself using Google Sheets more, which has the potential for the same problems in this article.

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It might be a worthy replacement for Excel 95, but not really for anything modern.
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It works with csv which is totally broken in excel
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maybe this could be used as a base and people could use AI to create extra features they need on top of it if there are things missing that Excel has that they want
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Peyton-Jones says excel is demonstrably FP so UI aside (which is SAMOP) Haskell seems sensible especially for the finance team.
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FP and SAMOP mean what? Your suggestion is to use a programming language to replace excel?
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FP means functional programming and SAMOP means "simply a matter of programming" and the humour appears to be a Whoosh moment. Cell based spreadsheet programming is good, and should be portable. But people code to Microsoft bugs.
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Sorry so many people making unrealistic solutions, I missed that this was humor.
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This would be an unmitigated disaster - most programmers have trouble with Haskell, I can’t imagine saying hey finance guys here’s an LLM and Haskell figure it out when they’re used to using a full on application with UX. It’s actually so crazy I feel like you’re joking.
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UI is the entire point for an excel alternative, as I understand it.

The computation side is trivial in comparison. But with AI, emulating the UI becomes far easier.

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That's like saying, "UI aside, a car is just wheels and an engine, so drivers should break out the welders instead of relying on big auto"
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The serious answer here is that a lot of MS products have kindof dual purpose: they are 90% used for very simple stuff (collecting data into a spreadsheet, having a text editor that allows basic styling), and 10% stuff that power users rely on (huge excel files with complicated formulas for data transformation and visualization, word / ppt templates with byzantine branding). The answer is that for the simple stuff you rely on open / cheap alternatives, and for the complex stuff (eg visualizing and transforming data for non-programmers, generating presentations and branded text documents) you can just ask ai now.
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For complex stuff you cannot just always ask ai now.
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I have mixed feelings about ai, but I think that word and powerpoint, as tools, are undeniably awful.
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> you rely on open / cheap alternatives

Big business kind of wants 24/4 support that those will not be providing at all though? Plus the various nonsense certifications. I mean try to convince anyone in corporate to use Libre and they'll probably just laugh.

(not that they would ever use that support, they just want to have someone to scapegoat lol)

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So your suggestion is a text editor? And ask AI for anything complex?
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Row Zero (now part of Databricks) is by far the best spreadsheet on the market - it's not even close.

Row Zero's fully Excel compatible, including keyboard shortcuts, long-tail pivot table configurability, 500+ built-in formulas like LAMBDA and LET, and real-time collab. But it scales 1000x beyond Excel (2 billion row limit vs 1 million for Excel), has built in connectors to everything (Databricks, Postgres, S3, Snowflake, etc), native Python support, deep AI integration with Databricks Genie, and all the security and data governance features to make big banks and healthcare providers comfortable. It's built by the team who brought Rust into AWS and rewrote S3's file system circa 2018.

We're used by individuals and small businesses all the way up to huge deployments in the Fortune 100.

Source: Was founder and CEO, now leading spreadsheet development at Databricks

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> fully Excel compatible

But is it 1-2-3 compatible?

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R and Python are both obvious replacements for data processing, and having the data itself appear in read-write columns of an Excel file is and has always been ludicrous.

Excel was for a time when programming meant more arcane languages. In 2026, there is no excuse for a business major not to know Python or R. They're both easy.

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They are not nearly as easy as Excel, even for people who know those other languages well.
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I don't think you understand what Excel is and what it does.
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Do tell!
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So your suggestion is replace excel with python and R? So when I send someone a spreadsheet instead I send them… a python script?
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I feel some of these people posting have not thought too hard and/or don’t understand the actual requirements here.

Also Excel is probably the best thing MS produces. There is lower hanging fruit elsewhere

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Excel is the best product I would never want to work with.

Unfortunately I have to.

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I'm not an Excel expert so I can't judge but https://getartcraft.com/apps/gridcraft is in heavy development at the moment
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Why are you recommending unfinished software that you don’t even use… that’s not a legitimate solution.
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I'm already using the Word one and I feel like it's better than the original so I'm guessing Excel is at a similar level of quality.
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These products all have super deep feature sets. This might meet basic editing needs. There is zero chance they have replicated the full feature set. Word for example has a ton of functionality for lawyers.

I can tell you all of the Excel alternatives are extremely disappointing.

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I guess you only need to get a list of the feature sets and then have an AI implement them (and follow up to test them and such)
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I do agree with that but I also think ultimately that a copy with all the most basic features and the familiar UI is good enough for most users, certainly for me
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Ok fair. Anyone here have experience with the excel clone?
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What do you mean? This has been in development since October 2026. That's a whole month. In the age of AI that's pretty solid.

And the 3k commits in a month, all good signs

/s

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Other cool thing they can run as headless mcp servers
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