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How do you square this with the news article being published on November 2nd, and referring to prior attempts to report going back to August?

It seems far more likely that Lovable and Supabase won’t consider or report this as a breach, nor will they take any action against the reporter.

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> [...] nor will they take any action against the reporter.

To be fair, I don’t know for certain whether they will.

However, Lovable was informed weeks in advance. They provided an official statement confirming the findings, which is included in the Handelsblatt article. At no point did they ask us to delay publication or threaten legal action. I can assure you that we would not have published the findings otherwise.

I also want to point out that I contacted Lovable’s head of security directly and shared the results of the analysis: websites, table names, record counts, and an LLM-generated “privacy sensitivity score.” No actual records were shared, as they had already been deleted. He was very cooperative and said his team would review the information and contact the affected customers.

The whole thing was very professional and he was appreciative of our work.

Edit: I see that Igor (Lovable's head of security) has commented in this thread as well.

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That's good news for you then.
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That may well be so. But that doesn't mean this is how you do it.

I draw the line at downloading data beyond what is required to prove there is an issue and I think you probably should cross that line only when you either have a contract with the company you are researching or if you have a lawyer that you pay that has signed off on what you are about to do. Anything less than that an - imnsho - you are playing the lottery.

Courts, especially in Germany, are typically not pleased if you take possession of the data.

For instance:

https://www.heise.de/en/news/Modern-Solution-Court-of-Appeal...

And quite a few others besides.

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This seems to make clear what several other commenters have been pointing to: this isn’t you relating absolute facts of law in the way you've been claiming. It’s you relating your personal ethical evaluation and your opinion about how the laws should be interpreted and followed.
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That, and 280 or so company reviews, conversations with compliance officers, CISOs, auditors, pentesters, lawyers and other people in the M&A space about how those companies deal with security issues, reports and what constitutes a potential breach and what does not.

As for the absolute facts of the law: the only law I currently have in mind is the GDPR and that is a surprisingly readable piece of legislation.

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So I should expect a news post about Lovable owing GDPR fines for failure to disclose a breach any day now?
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Quite possibly. If you are a data subject affected by this affair you can contact your local DPA.
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Honest question: how would you determine how much data is reasonable to download and inspect while remaining "white hat"? Are you advocating they stop at a single record, since that's enough to prove that a vulnerability exists? Or that OP downloaded _more_ than necessary and should have stopped earlier (but not at the first instance)?

Another question: I'm not sure if you noticed, but he obtained it from a 3rd party called Common Crawl (https://commoncrawl.org/) which "maintains a free, open repository of web crawl data that can be used by anyone." Doesn't this imply the damage is already done, since the data's been made available to _anyone_ at this point?

Put another way, since it's been put on Common Crawl, which presumably follows rules about what to scrape, hasn't Lovable effectively published this data?

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To clarify: no PII leaked from Lovable apps ended up in Common Crawl. Common Crawl was used solely to identify Lovable apps—not to retrieve leaked data. It does not store XHR responses, which are how data is retrieved from Supabase.

(Copied from another comment of mine.)

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If you're researching I would stop at the minimum required to determine that there is an issue, maybe you have a lawyer that will tell you different. This being Germany I would play it very safe. From the company's perspective there is no difference between downloading 1, 10 or 50,000 records to prove the point, though they likely will respond a bit quicker if you tell them you could download tens of thousands of records.

> Another question: I'm not sure if you noticed, but he obtained it from a 3rd party called Common Crawl (https://commoncrawl.org/) which "maintains a free, open repository of web crawl data that can be used by anyone." Doesn't this imply the damage is already done, since the data's been made available to _anyone_ at this point?

That is an interesting question. Common crawl could - and should - have realized they have no business hoovering this up and they may well be found to be negligent in how they set up their crawler. Note that the title makes it very clear that it is patently obvious that this data was not meant to be published 'passport details and more than 200K private messages' leaves very little to the imagination.

There is a massive difference between an unintentional disclosure and an intentional one. You can turn the one into the other and end up with a real problem.

The best way to handle these cases is to try to look through the eyes of the data subjects and then to do what is in their best interest. That will most likely guide you to what is safe to do without spending a fortune on legal opinions trying to find out where that bright line sits.

And that immediately illustrates the problem: the fewer people that have copies of this data the better, so by making one more copy - even though there already exists one that should not be publicly accessible - you are making the problem worse.

Common crawl, Lovable, Supabase and the OP all could do better with respect to the interests of the data subjects. OP at least realized there was a problem.

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