upvote
> They need ways to eliminate chunks of the applications. Illogical ways of eliminating candidates are acceptable because they are better than having no way

And this is how Apple/Google end up rejecting candidates to work on open source libraries...despite the candidates being the very authors they are wed out as they haven't spent months preparing for the interview.

reply
Most relevant response yet. Thank you.

This is exactly the category that I'm in. A couple of years ago I applied to a large company, with a referral. 0-2 years experience and a non-specific bachelor's required. I got my rejection in 15 minutes, after business hours. My resume didn't even see human eyes. Did I mention I had a referral?

reply
That sounds hard. I got my bsc and msc in cs in 2015 exactly because I was afraid of this.

I know maybe a couple of guys who've had successful careers in cs despite having no degree. Those guys are especially talented and industrious. Real rock stars. I'm an average slob in comparison and I feel lucky to have my papers, as I have a decent track record of getting interviews. Small local companies seem to respond the best to my resume. Big places and remote jobs seem to have a much higher bar to clear.

reply
Georgia Tech's Online Master of Science in Computer Science (GA Tech OMSCS) is really good about letting you go as fast or as slow as you want. If you are sufficiently motivated (and life circumstances permitting, granted), it's very doable as a nights and weekends type of thing.
reply
I did it over 5 years and it would consume all my free time during crunch periods. Definitely make sure your family is supportive - it’s like having a second part time job with occasional overtime.

Having said that - I believe many companies view OMSCS as a strong signal. It’s a difficult degree with high drop out rate.

reply
The time sink is real, but (at least for me personally), there is a sense of accomplishment when I get a a credential that is rarely felt when completing a "project".

(I control how I learn and absent a professor being a dick and purposely setting up an exam that 3/4 of the class bombs, learning is a joy compared to the politics, power games and sometimes even incompetence encountered at "work").

reply
I tried to apply to wgu but got stuck in some bureaucratic hell. Have a degree in an unrelated field. Also have ap credits from 20 years ago. Wgu demands I send them the ap credits but at this point there is basically no way to get them from the college board.
reply
I feel like someone who has been employed in tech for 15 or more years should simply be able to test out of a lot of these requirements anyway.
reply
Yes in this world of AI in everything, hiring tooling that is dog shit is the reason someone should go to college? I'm not commentating in where you're right or wrong, just want to point out what an utterly horrid reality.
reply
It cannot be long before anyone can apply for any job, and everyone gets an "AI interview" that does the actual screening.

Not perfect, but far better than the current resume filtering.

reply
Come up with a better system and you will be rich. "Better" should be scalable, measurable, objective etc.
reply
I mean, we live in a day and age where an entry level administrative job requires a degree. Gotta make sure to keep us trashy blue collar guys in our place.
reply
Except that trades probably make more money.
reply
WGU course content is a complete joke- I would look negatively on that if I saw it
reply
Well I hope you're not in charge of hiring people.
reply
Could you elaborate? I'm curious in which ways their course may be lacking.
reply
I was a faculty member there for a few years and I completely agree.
reply
True enough, and given that no company under 1000 headcount bothers to verify bachelor's degrees, OP should just lie to get through the initial filter.
reply
Funnily enough, I tried wording my Berkeley Bootcamp a little differently on my resume to be a little more ambiguous at one point in time. I got called out on that pretty quick. Not my a company, but by someone I had review it.
reply