The connection is believed to be the spatial reasoning involved in routing. No causative link is suggested.
This is triggering me lol. I was a Paramedic for 10 years and 3 of those years were before GPS existed and we had these awful 900 page 5" thick things we had to wield on the fly called Map Books. It was part of our probation period testing and they would time us to pick out the routes reliably within a certain deadline or not graduate from being a probie.
While your partner drove to the call you'd put the book on your lap and flip to the big large grid which would tell you which map your location would be on (page 770), then you'd look up the street in the back appendix to get the coordinates for the specific house (P5, C2) and then find the cross street on another page (P5, C3), go to the grid and find the closest appropriate hospital for the purpose of the call (different ERs have different functions- for gunshots go to Highland, for amputations go to CalPac Davies, for heart attacks go to UCSF, etc) (page 815), the street location for that (A6, C4) and then make your route while flipping back and forth between all the pages while simultaneously telling your partner where to turn as you go.
When I went to a better ran company, dispatch would give us map page and grid coordinates over the radio when we got the call.
Within a few months you learn most of the neighborhoods and routes, and road hazards and preferences- for example if going to UCSF from the Peninsula take O'Shaughnessy because there's no traffic and is a smooth ride. And if you're going to Seton Hospital from 101 slow down around the turn on the on ramp onto 280 because there is a GIANT bump that will knock your partner in the back's head into the ceiling and not be comfortable for the patient on the gurney.
Map books were no fun but some of the dudes I worked with definitely became route-finding savants.
Similar. I worked doing deliveries for an event company all over the greater NY area, based out of Queens. I usually rode jump-seat and spent a few years with a retired trucker who was such a savant. He could maneuver a truck through any tight/precarious situation with great precision and care. He could visit a location once and recall it next year, every year.
The most impressive was a full day gauntlet starting at 5 AM where he navigated starting in south queens NYC to a stop in Staten Island, then off to Jersey city, then up to Sleepy Hollow NY, then all the way to some Greek church deep in Suffolk county through the winding maze that is the north shore - no map, no gps.
The most scary situation was driving a smaller Isuzu cab-over box truck through Brooklyn on a hot summer day. We had no AC, windows down, headed along a narrow avenue under the elevated train tracks. A passing truck was a little too far - BOOM- a loud shattering glass and bang sound. Turns out that idiot hit his mirror violently into ours so hard it showered him directly in the face with shards of mirror. I only got hit with a few pieces in the arm and a bunch landed on my lap. He didn't flinch. He kept the truck strait while muttering "I've been waiting for that to happen again." He thankfully only had two small cuts on his face, nothing went into his eyes. We lucky passed an auto parts store and he was able to rig up something on the mirror bar, continued on and finished the route.
He was a real character and he always had a lot of fun and crazy road stories. That dude also taught me to drive a truck with air brakes which is also how I learned to drive a manual. In addition to showing me all the secret traffic avoidance and toll beating routes, he was a foodie and showed me a lot of interesting restaurants he'd stop at along our routes. He took me to the famous Wo Hop in Manhttan's China Town when you could just walk in and get a table (late 90's.) He parked the truck at an inactive construction site a block away and moved cones around it so we didn't get a ticket. That character knew all the tricks :-)
Tony got his "knowledge" around "21-Up" in the series, became a London cabby by "28-Up" [2].
If I remember the story I read correctly, they just call it "The Knowledge". What a great name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Knowledge_(film)
It's available on YouTube (potential geoblocking notwithstanding):
>> for gunshots go to Highland, for amputations go to CalPac Davies, for heart attacks go to UCSF, etc
Oooft. My utmost respect. I could not do this job.
To be clear, I'm not implying that usage of LLMs or viewing potentially unlimited video shorts is necessarily bad, nor could I guess the threshold from which doing these things becomes cognitively damaging in the long term. All I'm saying is that such a threshold exists and some people in society are surpassing it.
DayZ is another one because there is no in-game GPS. You have to use maps and compasses to figure your route and many people can spot an exact area on the massive map by a picture of a bush
"Video gaming, but not reliance on GPS, is associated with spatial navigation" paper shows there was a significant association between self-reported weekly hours of video gaming and wayfinding performance.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027249442...
Tested with Sea Hero Quest
1. Those with spatial reasoning are less likely to develop Alzheimers
2. Ambo and Taxi drivers are less likely (for some reason) to develop Alzheimers AND their work leads them to develop good spatial reasoning.
Sorry if I am misunderstanding you.
1. Ambo and Taxi drivers are vastly more likely than the general population to die in a collision before Alzheimers gets to them. 2. Even if you control out collisions, driving an Ambo and Taxi requires enough more memory and cognitive functioning to survive that people with early Alzheimer symptoms are significantly more likely to die in a collision, meaning you've controlled out a good chunk of ALzheimer victims in the process.
Taxi drivers were exposed to a wide variety of people who they conversed with, became aware of Alzheimer's symptoms and treatments and sought help early.
Off the top of my head.
And try to control with so many other non-transport occupations like nurses, therapists, hairdressers, air-traffic controllers, etc.
Ironically, the transport aspect reminds me of a prior correlation I read about for truck drivers and higher rates of colon cancer. There were speculative theories as to whether it was from the hours sitting or something like the chronic vibration.
So spatial navigational ability is another risk factor/biomarker (along with blood pressure, smoking etc)
The problems arrizing from alzheimers are so problematic, that the cabdrivers / ambulance drivers drive themselves to death before they enter the stats as alzheimers patients?
A bit like the famous bullet holes in planes from ww2
[0] https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-study-...
I’m a little skeptical of the category “ambulance drivers; not emergency medical technicians” as reliably coded, because people will often say so-and-so “drove an ambulance” when they were actually an EMT or paramedic. But it’s also not clear to me that would invalidate the findings.
- Is significant life-long usage of real-time mental spatial navigation protective?
- Are those who end up in these positions self-selected for better than average real-time mental spatial navigation and that above average performance correlates with protection against Alzheimer's.
Anecdotal, but I've spoken with many taxi and ride-share drivers, and my impression is that their decision to seek out and continue that line of work is almost always driven by outside economic considerations. I've never heard someone base their decision on their ability to perform the job.
That they’re consciously aware of
https://www.openculture.com/2024/08/what-it-takes-to-pass-th...
>Learn the Knowledge of London
https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/taxis-and-private-hire/licensing...
>The Knowledge, London’s Legendary Taxi-Driver Test, Puts Up a Fight in the Age of GPS (2014) — "Its rigors have been likened to those required to earn a degree in law or medicine"
Doesn't this mean that if you get Alzheimer's and as such are unable to work, that it is quite unlikely you would show up as a taxi/ambulance driver in this study?
Such studies need to account for transfers between groups, but rarely seem to do so (I did not read the complete paper, please correct me as necessary).
For example, I know my city very well and can navigate through it with no GPS help.
But, according this study, ship captains, whom uses more complex navigation and spatial mechanisms, are amongst the most affected ones, maybe this is actually about "decision-making."
Or could be there some weird variable that's unaccounted for ? Do taxi drivers and ambulance drivers for some reason have more regular sleep patterns ? We know that is definitely helpful for Alzheimer's
Or maybe they just get great at napping on the job !
That seems unattainable for anyone at all.
Man, Alzheimer's disease sucks. We need more investment and more research into this horrible illness.
Personally I'm curious about the impact of super-early diagnosis, decades before symptoms, and interventions that maximally slow progress.
I worked as an EMT for about 4 months and for the first few weeks had to drive around while the Paramedic (we rode EMT/Paramedic pairs) quizzed me about "if we got a call at XYZ, how would you get there"
Talk about vivid dreams every night.
That could even be a form of therapy after diagnosis (which seems to become easier with biomarkers).
If LoL trained you for ambulance work, the world would look something like: there are 5 hospitals, 3 patients, 15 roads; a hospital inspector goes from hospital to hospital, panicked hospital managers open that hospital for 5 hours after inspector is about to arrive; you have another ambulance friend that tells you from time to time info about last inspector location or how panicked the managers looked; infer open hospitals and inspector location such that your patient survives, while you also have to maintain a high Candy Crush score on your phone non-stop.
There is a small mini-map where all heroes currently visible on the map are shown. A high level player would for example reason: "I saw the enemy carry farming there 30 seconds ago, so right now he is likely in that area".
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/blood-t...
Dunno, did taxi driving for a few years. Mostly suburban for a small fleet, not gigging. I'm thinking newer drivers that rely on smartphones for navigation won't get the same benefit.
I seem to recall that at least some populations of taxi driver they have exams like The Knowledge (https://london-taxi.co.uk/the-knowledge/) where changes in structures of the brain can be measured after learning it.
My shitty ambo company sold our sleeping quarters as revenge when we tried to unionize and so we would have to sleep in the rig and would run the engine to keep warm, I am sure I will meet an early death from sucking in all those diesel fumes over night shifts.
Roll enough different sets of dice and you'd expect some to end up being all sixes - that doesn't mean that set is rigged. Yeah, they're the ones you'd do further tests on, but it's not evidence in itself.
But that's why you do multiple testing correction
I wonder what about gta players. And does playing GTA mainly in taxi count in
So, before every trip, the night before we left we would study a map, always stressing the direction of north and monitoring the sun's position. To her joy she became an excellent co-pilot, soon surpassing my map skills! Now, of course, there's GPS, which we both love, but agree isn't as much fun as maps. (We still carry an atlas in the car for a backup.)
Ambulance Drivers: The mean age at death is approximately 64.2 years.
Taxi Drivers: The mean age at death is approximately 67.8 years.
General Population: in the same dataset, life expectancy averaged 74 years.
The average age at which patients are typically diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease is between 75 and 84 years.
People in these jobs don't live long enough on average to get diagnosed, at the same rate. The same effect will happen in any job that lowers your life expectancy.
But the first massively popular 3D games started end of 90s which means Alzheimer cases for them will pop up only around 2060 or later (average onset year 75 minus being 15 years kid during 90s).
Plus, digital environments are explicitly designed to be engaging: authors are putting intentional thought into making the virtual space easy to navigate so that the player doesn't get frustrated and go do something else.
Meanwhile, the physical world is something we're pretty much stuck in, and material spaces tend to be optimized not so much to be engaging to navigate and explore - more to be comfortable to inhabit, etc.
Besides, physical spaces - e.g. cities - tend to be iteratively developed over generations, bearing the hallmarks of many different thinking minds, and not optimized for any one particular user flow.
- fire, police, postal, long haul trucks
My hypothesis is that it's either age, physical condition or both.
A sample of a sample of a sample...
> Firstly and perhaps most importantly, selection bias is possible because individuals who are at higher risk of developing Alzheimer’s disease may be less likely to enter or remain in memory intensive driving occupations such as taxi and ambulance driving. This could mean that the lower Alzheimer’s disease mortality observed in these occupations is not due to the protective effect of the job itself but rather because those prone to the disease may have self-selected out of such roles. However, Alzheimer’s disease symptoms typically develop after patients’ working years, with only 5-10% of cases occurring in people younger than 65 years (early onset).1114 While subtle symptoms could develop earlier, they would still most likely be after a person had worked long enough to deem the occupation to be a so-called usual occupation, suggesting against substantial attrition from navigational jobs due to development of Alzheimer’s disease. Moreover, even if lifelong taxi driving selects for individuals with strong spatial processing, our findings would still suggest an interesting link between spatial processing skills and risk of Alzheimer’s disease.