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by da_chicken1 hours ago |
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upvoteby Exoristos3 minutes ago|
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upvoteby whstl1 hours ago|
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> What exactly is the employee doing that there are no metrics at all

Anything that needs managers to actually go and check.

It's not that they trust the employee to work with zero supervision, it's just that most managers and execs don't want to do any kind of work.

The webcam checks are pure projection.

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upvoteby sssilver1 hours ago|
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Aren't the managers subject to the same 3-minute shots themselves?
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upvoteby whstl20 minutes ago|
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They should be, but it still beats working for a living.
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upvoteby whaleofatw20221 hours ago|
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Not necessarily.

In an odd sort of irony, I know that at least one WITCH in fact gives feedback to the employees about their monitoring directly, versus other 'solutions' where only the manager and/or HR gets access to the system's reporting.

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upvoteby mannanj1 hours ago|
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Absolutely not. Tell me a single company where the same executives are subject to the invasive privacy metrics.

Even like Facebook: the AI training stuff was applied to software engineers and staff but definitely not executives.

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upvoteby sssilver32 minutes ago|
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I’ve never been an executive but I’ve worked as an Engineering Manager and a Senior EM of various levels at big shot software engineering companies and all the same rules always applied to me as literally every other employee I managed, directly or indirectly.
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upvoteby tripleee1 hours ago|
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unfortunately keyboard and mouse tracking, screen tracking, "what apps are open" etc. are very common for remote work so I can totally see this being looked at in a similar way
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upvoteby ebbi1 hours ago|
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It feels like the Covid lockdown WFH times where managers mandated everyone has their webcams on. Having been in some of these management conversations, it was purely to ensure no one is just chilling on their bed.

Pretty dumb, as at that time not everyone was had a home office set up, and one can work from their bed perfectly fine, especially when someone wants to put their feet up for a bit during a team meeting.

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upvoteby hosh27 minutes ago|
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I have sometimes had to work in bed while running a low fever.

I do that because I believe in the mission and work is assessed by outcome.

The flip side too — I learned well before COVID that the Kanban principle of “make work visible” applies to WFH

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